Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:00:35 -0500 Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, the question: what really works? Who's in a big colo that uses passive cooling? Who has a Liebert in a small computer room? Who just cut a hole in the wall and put in a $79 AC from the warehouse club? Any

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jon maddog Hall
Ahhh, back on the discuss list again! Many, many years ago Aetna Life and Casualty in Hartford, Ct., who was at that time the largest commercial user of IBM equipment in the free world (think about that tag line a minute), bought its first Amdahl (yet another story, but one which will not be told

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Friday 04 November 2005 2:37 am, Jon maddog Hall wrote: Had any problems with these drives?, he asked. When told that they were having intermittent problems, he nodded. This room is five degrees outside spec for these drives.I know, since I designed them. Since we are on AC war

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, the question: what really works? Who's in a big colo that uses passive cooling? Who has a Liebert in a small computer room? Who just cut a hole in the wall and put in a $79 AC from the warehouse club? Is Liebert supposed to be top of the line

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jon maddog Hall
Since we are on AC war stories. Now you have done it. :-) When I was at Hartford State Technical College we had a REALLY LARGE air conditioner that was supposed to both heat and cool the computer room. When I got to the school (the bulk of which was not air conditioned), I suffered through

Re: (really stupid) Zone file question

2005-11-04 Thread Paul Lussier
(Yeah, I know this is from May, but I just got around to this thread now :) Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't finished the article yet, but I've read enough to be able to provide an example of the above (and point out factual errors in the article). Premise: ACLs are needed,

Re: OT: OT

2005-11-04 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/4/05, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Labeling this OT since it only applies to a server environment, and could even apply to other OS's, though Why would you want to do that?] #ifdef RANT I think it's a damn freaking shame that we can have a 70 message thread in which a few

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Friday 04 November 2005 3:45 am, Jon maddog Hall wrote: Since we are on AC war stories. Now you have done it. :-) When I was at Hartford State Technical College we had a REALLY LARGE air conditioner that was supposed to both heat and cool the computer room. I went to school where a number

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/4/05, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CRAC - Computer Room Air Conditioning. ... what really works? Like most things, this really depends on what you're doing. How much equipment? How much heat does it put out? What are your availability requirements? Running NYSE requires

Re: SSH configuration summary

2005-11-04 Thread Paul Lussier
Mark Polhamus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry Cook wrote: This thread was very timely, as I wanted to set up my system for remote access using SSH. Here is a summary of the advice for a secure SSH configuration that I gathered from the thread. I've included the specific

RE: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Brian
A war story of mine... In (I think '98 or '99) when Global Crossing was just getting their network going I was working for Lucent as the Senior Resident Engineer overseeing their deployment of Lucent ATM switches world-wide. This was at GC's main NOC in Southfield, MI. Their operations spanned

Re: SSH configuration summary

2005-11-04 Thread Tom Buskey
I've started using something called Denyhosts (http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/) to deal with ssh scans. If you need to use the default port this is very useful. It watches the sshd log file for multiple login attempts and adds the ip addresses to /etc/hosts.deny. It's a python script has lost

Re: SSH configuration summary

2005-11-04 Thread Randy Edwards
(though, it's probably important to note that there are *no* business type users of this system. Everyone is either highly technical, or willing to learn :) So in laymen's terms, what you're really saying is that you work just a little this side of heaven... :-) Regards, . Randy

Re: OT: OT

2005-11-04 Thread Travis Roy
hey, why doesn't this list have [gnhlug] on the subject line.. we should do that.. (this is a joke) Ben Scott wrote: On 11/4/05, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Labeling this OT since it only applies to a server environment, and could even apply to other OS's, though Why would you

Re: OT: OT

2005-11-04 Thread Bruce Dawson
On 11/4/05, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Labeling this OT since it only applies to a server environment, and could even apply to other OS's, though Why would you want to do that?] #ifdef RANT I think it's a damn freaking shame that we can have a 70 message thread in which a

Re: OT: OT

2005-11-04 Thread Jon maddog Hall
I think it's a damn freaking shame that we can have a 70 message thread in which a few people endlessly debate the evils of tool booths, but someone posting a legitimate, technical discussion feels compelled to mark the thread off-topic. Well, with the new server, we can run a version of