Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Tom Buskey
I've always hated the "It's the most widely used, so it's the most widely targeted and most widely compromised" argument. Most of the time I see it expoused by clueless journalists and Windows apologists making excuses for all the security issues Windows has had. But, there is a small (small!) ge

Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-24 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Ironically (or coincidentally?), this very day we made an offer on a house in Amherst for the very reason on the subject line of this e-mail. While US News & World Report rates Souhegan as second in the state for (public) high schools, behind Hollis, we found that the general atmosphere and direct

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Thomas Charron wrote: >   Linux is NOT more secure then Windows.  People RUNNING Linux are > *generally* more security conscious then a person running Windows. > > -- > -- Thomas > Apache (OK, not Linux, but illustrative). Back a number of years ago, IIS was rout

Re: Souhegan High School

2010-03-24 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
"Jon 'maddog' Hall" writes: > > Two weeks ago I went to Souhegan High School in Amherst to vote, and > while there I looked up their computer technical person (they are mostly > a windows shop, but also have MACs) and offered to do a presentation to > the students and faculty on FOSS and free cult

Souhegan High School

2010-03-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Hi, Two weeks ago I went to Souhegan High School in Amherst to vote, and while there I looked up their computer technical person (they are mostly a windows shop, but also have MACs) and offered to do a presentation to the students and faculty on FOSS and free culture. They asked their "community

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Derek Atkins writes: > > Benjamin Scott writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, G Rundlett wrote: > > > So, it seems that you're saying: "Don't switch to Linux because > > > even though it will prevent you from getting 99% of the malware > > > out there today, someday it could be targete

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 15:18 -0400, Benjamin Scott wrote: > However, if/when Linux gains significant market share, the Linux > binary/shell script/.deb/autopackage/whatever that gets downloaded > will run just fine. In other words, this is only an effective > countermeasure *as long as Linux rema

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>But... only somewhat: "Though a program be but three lines long, >someday it will have to be maintained." "the realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs." - Maurice Wilkes, head of the EDSAC pro

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>I'm not missing the point. All holes are not created equal. While I might agree that there are some holes that are larger than others, and some systems where there are more holes than others, I apply the same logic to computer systems that I apply to using a condom to block STDsany size or n

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Wed, March 24, 2010 5:05 pm, Thomas Charron wrote: > Linux is NOT more secure then Windows. People RUNNING Linux are > *generally* more security conscious then a person running Windows. I will take partial issue with this. It's my humble and considered opinion that open source is, generally,

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Given a standard-configuration fully-updated Windows box and compare it > to a standard-configuration fully-updated Linux box.. The windows > machine has significantly more holes in it during standard use. > > That is false assumption whic

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Derek Atkins
"Jon 'maddog' Hall" writes: > Derek, > > You are still missing the point: > >>Given a standard-configuration fully-updated Windows box and compare it >>to a standard-configuration fully-updated Linux box.. The windows >>machine has significantly more holes in it during standard use. > > You only

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Derek, You are still missing the point: >Given a standard-configuration fully-updated Windows box and compare it >to a standard-configuration fully-updated Linux box.. The windows >machine has significantly more holes in it during standard use. You only need one hole. md _

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Derek Atkins
"Jon 'maddog' Hall" writes: > Derek, > >>but I think Linux does start as a more >>secure platform that Windows, so you've already got a leg up. > > When it comes to security, the only one that has a leg up is that one > hacker that is going to break in, and (when you are not looking) is > going t

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Derek, >but I think Linux does start as a more >secure platform that Windows, so you've already got a leg up. When it comes to security, the only one that has a leg up is that one hacker that is going to break in, and (when you are not looking) is going to piss on you. md _

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Derek Atkins
Benjamin Scott writes: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, G Rundlett wrote: >> So, it seems that you're saying: "Don't switch to Linux because even though >> it will prevent you from getting 99% of the malware out there today, someday >> it could be targeted and vulnerable". > > No. What I'm

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I agree with Ben: o yes, right now there are fewer viruses for Linux and Mac o those people that depend on that fact will sooner or later regret that dependency Only constant application of patches, training and diligence will help stave off malware. And most users will not do the first, will no

Re: Starting an X11 client on another machine, without ssh

2010-03-24 Thread Bill Freeman
Below are a working pair of scripts, should anyone find them useful. I would have attached, rather than included them, but if the MV webmail interface lets me attach files, I haven't figured out how. These work for my current application. sxon lives on the PATH on my machine with the X server (u

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM, G Rundlett wrote: > So, it seems that you're saying: "Don't switch to Linux because even though > it will prevent you from getting 99% of the malware out there today, someday > it could be targeted and vulnerable". No. What I'm saying is: A false sense of secur

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread G Rundlett
Greg Rundlett On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) > wrote: > > Of course, you can just run Linux and you're system won't be vulnerable > to > > most if not all such 'scareware'. > > For now. Right now, the att

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Bill Freeman
> When I go to a site that noscript blocks, I might want to allow it. When > noscript is allowed, it reloads. Usually this lets me go on my way. Some > sites will set some kind of cookie and not allow me to reload. Coupon > sites, surveys, polls, webkins are typical. The only way to clear some

Re: FLOSS-/hacker-friendly music-players?

2010-03-24 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Tom Buskey writes: > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Bill McGonigle wrote: > > > > Last I looked only the iPod and a handful of Creative devices supported > > this, but I'd like to find something that did (or that I could hack to > > do it). I'm trying to avoid buying both Apple and Creative

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: > Of course, you can just run Linux and you're system won't be vulnerable to > most if not all such 'scareware'. For now. Right now, the attackers go after Windows, because 90% of the users run Windows. (With a higher percenta

Re: another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Tom Buskey
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) < g...@freephile.com> wrote: > Apparently the ad networks of Fox, Google, and Yahoo have been distributing > ads which contain malicious javascript. This means that all you have to do > is surf the web to have your system infected with m

another reason to use adblock and noscript... or just use Linux

2010-03-24 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
Apparently the ad networks of Fox, Google, and Yahoo have been distributing ads which contain malicious javascript. This means that all you have to do is surf the web to have your system infected with malware... wait, that isn't really new. It's just a sad reminder of how easy it is for "regular

Re: Starting an X11 client on another machine, without ssh

2010-03-24 Thread Bill Freeman
> Googling for "X without ssh" or "X Forwarding without ssh" brings up > thousands of helpful tutorials on X Forwarding using SSH :) > > Here's an alternative suggestion, not as good as xon, but relatively simple: > > http://superuser.com/questions/49240/get-remote-x-display-working-in-linux-wit

Re: Starting an X11 client on another machine, without ssh

2010-03-24 Thread Tom Buskey
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote: > On 03/23/2010 06:13 PM, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > > This is not possible with any SSH implementation that I am familiar > > with. > > Ah, found it: > > http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/ > > For some reason I thought it was avai