Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-26 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 22, 2007, at 21:18, Drew Van Zandt wrote: I'm sure you can't MAKE kids interested in engineering, but there are certainly classes of toys that a great many of the more geek- inclined people I know remember fondly. I'm largely siding with nature on this one. I had our two kids down

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-26 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Nov 21, 2007, at 17:51, Greg Rundlett wrote: That's fast. It's also faster than the guy said. He said it was supposed to be somewhere in the 70 mph range. Perhaps the numbers are off. Perhaps it's more than a physics problem (likely it's still a math problem). My guess is it's more

Re: New Edisons? Was: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-25 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Saturday 24 November 2007 23:47, Ben Scott wrote: On Nov 24, 2007 8:56 PM, Jim Kuzdrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try this on for an idea: Linus' lasting contribution may be the concept of collaborative, open technical development using the Web or some other egalitarian communication

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-25 Thread Jeffry Smith
On 11/24/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That book (unfortunately) has been out of print for many, many years, but here is another book along the same lines that I would recommend: http://www.amazon.com/American-Boys-Handy-Book-Nonpareil/dp/0879234490/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product a

Re: New Edisons? Was: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-25 Thread Ric Werme
From: Jim Kuzdrall I believe it was Jean Jacques Rousseau who concluded a letter to a friend saying, I am sorry this letter is so long, but I did not have time to write a shorter one. (Did I get that attribution right?) I'm not sure, but that quote is in Strunk White's Elements of

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-24 Thread Michael Costolo
On Nov 23, 2007 10:01 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but here is another book along the same lines that I would recommend: http://www.amazon.com/American-Boys-Handy-Book-Nonpareil/dp/0879234490/ref=si3_rdr_bb_product a reprint of Dan Beard's book: The American Boy's Handy

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-24 Thread mike miller
Great book. Also check out the magazine MAKE. Mike - Original Message - From: Michael Costolo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics On Nov 23, 2007 10:01

Re: New Edisons? Was: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-24 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Friday 23 November 2007 23:56, Ben Scott wrote: On Nov 23, 2007 9:47 PM, Ric Werme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No More Edisons? I find sweet irony in the tone of this essay, given that it was re-posted in a forum whose nominal focus is an operating system created by an upstart college

Re: New Edisons? Was: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-24 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Friday 23 November 2007 21:47, Ric Werme wrote: As for the former, I wrote the following a while back. While it ran in the NH Mensa newsletter, I was never happy with it and haven't put it on the web yet. Too many omissions, too many sentences that need their own paragraph, but it really

Re: New Edisons? Was: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-24 Thread Ben Scott
[this is a reply to multiple messages from the same author] On Nov 24, 2007 8:56 PM, Jim Kuzdrall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try this on for an idea: Linus' lasting contribution may be the concept of collaborative, open technical development using the Web or some other egalitarian communication

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-23 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Any I've missed? If I ever have children they're definitely going to have easy access LEGO and random electronic components. Rubber-band powered airplanes made of balsa and tissue paper (today the tissue paper is sometimes replaced with ultra-thin plastic, which can actually be made by

Re: New Edisons? Was: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Nov 23, 2007 9:47 PM, Ric Werme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No More Edisons? I find sweet irony in the tone of this essay, given that it was re-posted in a forum whose nominal focus is an operating system created by an upstart college kid. :-) -- Ben

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-23 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Thursday 22 November 2007 21:18, you wrote: I'm sure you can't MAKE kids interested in engineering, but there are certainly classes of toys that a great many of the more geek-inclined people I know remember fondly. LEGO Erector sets Tinkertoys Lincoln Logs Piles of junk + imagination

New Edisons? Was: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-23 Thread Ric Werme
Perhaps our society has been wealthy for too many generations. Few young people seem think about what they want to accomplish in life. Everything they could want is there - or so it might appear. And too many distractions. John Taylor Gatti, NYC teacher of the year a few times was

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-22 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 17:51, Greg Rundlett wrote: I really like the indoor batting facility in Salisbury, MA (Extra Innings). I wondered how 'fast' the fast cage was Y = Big League pitch speed = 60.5 feet / .45 seconds = Y feet / 1 second Y = 134.444 feet / second * 3600 / 5280

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-22 Thread Michael ODonnell
If you're asking how fast does it appear to be going based on time of flight from the pitchers mound to the batter, the answer is 100mph. Heh. And I wonder if the insurance premiums aren't a bit more affordable if you explain to your insuror that you're only beaning your customers with

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-22 Thread mike miller
the difference between a 90mph and a 91.66mph pitch. Mike Miller - Original Message - From: Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GNHLUG gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Cc: Geoff Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-22 Thread Charles G Montgomery
Brian Chabot wrote In terms of education and its promotion, it might be interesting to use baseball physics to get students more interested who otherwise might not be... It's an opportunity that's being pursued. As one example there's a book specifically about baseball,

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-22 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Thursday 22 November 2007 12:01, Ric Werme wrote: Sigh, one course I didn't take in college and kinda wish I had was Fluid Dynamics. I really should read up on that. I did show some movies in a FD class showing turbulent laminar drag. I took Fluid Mechanics at Michigan Tech (in the

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics

2007-11-22 Thread Drew Van Zandt
I'm sure you can't MAKE kids interested in engineering, but there are certainly classes of toys that a great many of the more geek-inclined people I know remember fondly. LEGO Erector sets Tinkertoys Lincoln Logs Piles of junk + imagination Any I've missed? If I ever have children they're

[OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-21 Thread Greg Rundlett
I really like the indoor batting facility in Salisbury, MA (Extra Innings). I wondered how 'fast' the fast cage was. It seemed really fast and has taken me a few visits to get to the point where I can hit the ball. I asked today how fast the machine was. The friendly staff person told me it

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-21 Thread Bill Ricker
that is in the big leagues. I'm not making fun of the guy, but physics isn't involved in solving the problem, just regular math. Physics is just applied math. All the world is functions. -- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Nov 21, 2007 5:51 PM, Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, if I should be sad that an average person might think that there is physics rather than math involved. Physics was involved. Indeed, you just solved a physics problem. The fact that you used math doesn't mean it wasn't a

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-21 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 17:51, Greg Rundlett wrote: He said if I have some friends who know physics I could figure out how fast that is in the big leagues. I'm not making fun of the guy, but physics isn't involved in solving the problem, just regular math. Actually, it is a physics

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-21 Thread Greg Rundlett
I just offer an interesting example of how math ain't that hard, and can be used to solve fun problems. The basic question at hand was How fast does the machine pitch? (compared to a major-league pitcher). The basic answer could be found through some unit conversion and cross multiplication. I

Re: [OT] Simple math considered physics; turns out it's fun, not harmful

2007-11-21 Thread Brian Chabot
Greg Rundlett wrote: Philosophically and sociologically, I'm asking why somebody who worked there wouldn't solve these problems out of curiosity. Because they don't know how? Because they don't care? Because they were conditioned by social norms to believe the subject is too difficult or