Re: [OT] Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 11:12:41AM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: > On Apr 27, 2005, at 13:47, Derek Martin wrote: > > >>So he doesn't pay property, sales, or social security taxes? No tolls > >>on the road, and certainly no gas taxes? The cost of said taxes and > >>other regs aren't built into th

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-28 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 27, 2005, at 13:47, Derek Martin wrote: So he doesn't pay property, sales, or social security taxes? No tolls on the road, and certainly no gas taxes? The cost of said taxes and other regs aren't built into the cost of everything he buys? He doesn't have to meet building code when he reno

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-27 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/27/05, Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Repairs are expensive because big business wants it that way. Period. Small business wants it that way, too, they just can't get away with it. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhl

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:06:32PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: > On Apr 26, 2005, at 12:23, Derek Martin wrote: > > >Often that's true, but it's largely irrelevant. My dad runs his own > >repair business, and he's his only employee. He doesn't have to > >follow labor regulations... He makes li

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-27 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 26, 2005, at 12:23, Derek Martin wrote: Often that's true, but it's largely irrelevant. My dad runs his own repair business, and he's his only employee. He doesn't have to follow labor regulations... He makes little enough that after expenses and retirement account deductions, he isn't pa

Re: [OT] Re: Computer fatalities

2005-04-27 Thread Randy Edwards
Since this is wandering way off-topic and I could easily reply in-depth about the issue, this will be my last post on this topic to the list. MC> Then, er, how do you explain MSNBC keeping Imus? I think there's a big difference between a radio shock jock who the majority of Americans do

Re: [OT] Re: Computer fatalities

2005-04-27 Thread Paul Lussier
Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rememeber, on tee-vee, nothing is more important than ratings. > >Try telling that to Phil Donahue, who had the highest rated show on MSNBC > just before MSNBC abruptly cancelled his show because it feared the show > wouldn't go along with the B

Re: [OT] Re: Computer fatalities

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Costolo
On 4/27/05, Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rememeber, on tee-vee, nothing is more important than ratings.   Try telling that to Phil Donahue, who had the highest rated show on MSNBCjust before MSNBC abruptly cancelled his show because it feared the show wouldn't go along with the Bush

[OT] Re: Computer fatalities

2005-04-27 Thread Randy Edwards
> Rememeber, on tee-vee, nothing is more important than ratings. Try telling that to Phil Donahue, who had the highest rated show on MSNBC just before MSNBC abruptly cancelled his show because it feared the show wouldn't go along with the Bush administration's pro-war line. It's not unus

Re: Computer fatalities

2005-04-26 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Travis Roy writes: > While I agree that if it works for SOMETHING you shouldn't trow it > away, but as far as recycling in general, you may want to watch this > (if you have showtime, or you know where to find it if you don't) > > http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do?topic=r > > Opened my eyes

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities

2005-04-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 08:44:33PM -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: > > Yup. How many different models of Microwaves are there? How many > different COLORS of those models are there... You need to do a very > high volume of business for this to be practical.

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities

2005-04-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 08:44:33PM -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: > Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In fact I asked, and he said that 5x would be a very conservative > > estimate... It's probably more like 6-10x depending on how > > complicated the device is. A typical example: for hi

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities

2005-04-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In fact I asked, and he said that 5x would be a very conservative > estimate... It's probably more like 6-10x depending on how > complicated the device is. A typical example: for him to order a > replacement control board (i.e. the main circuit board) f

Re: Computer fatalities

2005-04-26 Thread Travis Roy
One good reason might be because you'd prefer not to see more perfectly good stuff end up in a landfill. You might come to the conclusion that a throwaway society isn't sustainable. While I agree that if it works for SOMETHING you shouldn't trow it away, but as far as recycling in general, you ma

Re: Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-26 Thread David Ecklein
]> To: "Greater NH Linux User Group" Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: Re: Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0) > > Benjamin Scott writes: > > >The practical upshot is that > >if you have to pay a professional to "fix y

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:47:35AM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: > On Apr 26, 2005, at 11:14, Derek Martin wrote: > > >That > >must be it. or maybe we as a society just enjoy being economically > >raped... > > I'm guessing that new appliance is shipped in from overseas. There the > "American" c

Re: [OT] Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-26 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 26, 2005, at 11:14, Derek Martin wrote: That must be it. or maybe we as a society just enjoy being economically raped... I'm guessing that new appliance is shipped in from overseas. There the "American" company who makes it doesn't have to pay significant taxes or follow labor regulation

Re: Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-26 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 10:48:48AM -0400, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Benjamin Scott writes: > > >The practical upshot is that > >if you have to pay a professional to "fix your computer", the bill > >can easily come to $300 or $400. When a brand new system costs not > >much more then

Re: Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-26 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Benjamin Scott writes: >The practical upshot is that >if you have to pay a professional to "fix your computer", the bill >can easily come to $300 or $400. When a brand new system costs not >much more then that, why bother? One good reason might be because you'd prefer not to see

Computer fatalities (was: Linux Made Easy: Linspire 5.0)

2005-04-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Apr 24 at 9:21pm, Paul Lussier wrote: But, if your system dies tomorrow I'm always curious when people use this phrase. I mean, who's ever had a "system" die such that it required a complete replacement? It's getting kind of weird. Prices in the PC world have dropped hugely. At the same tim