Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-08 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 6, 2008, at 17:12, Ben Scott wrote: > I'm waiting for the day when a spammer writes a script to subscribe > his spambot to Mailman lists. Ugh. Gives me indigestion just > thinking about it. We got one a couple months back - the Soduku spam. I banned the domain from the dlslug- list

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Coleman Kane
On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 17:13 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe spam prevention (much like virus prevention) is more about not > > making yourself a target, than it is about defending yourself against > > those who target you. > > Ru

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe spam prevention (much like virus prevention) is more about not > making yourself a target, than it is about defending yourself against > those who target you. Running a business means you have to make yourself accessible. --

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm quite interested to know how the gnhlug-* lists manage to be as > hammy as they are. Mail from non-subscribers is silently dropped by the list software. Subscriptions are verified with a reply-back message. So far, that has kep

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread VirginSnow
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:49:18 -0400 > From: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The most accurate way of filtering spam is with that little key on the > > keyboard labeled "Delete". > > In practice, that method is very inaccurate. A lot of accounts I'm > responsible for gets hundreds upon

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread VirginSnow
> From: Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:07:17 -0400 > Cc: Greater NH Linux User Group > I'm blocking about 13,000 spams destined for my personal mailbox on a > daily basis. I actually need to deal with 80-120 a day (some smarter > procmail rules could cut that i

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Buskey
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 6, 2008, at 18:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Until we can write programs capable of passing the Turing > > test, spam filters are destined to either (or both of): > > > > (1) Let spam through, and/or > > (2)

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 6, 2008, at 18:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Until we can write programs capable of passing the Turing > test, spam filters are destined to either (or both of): > > (1) Let spam through, and/or > (2) Block legitimate mail. > > The most accurate way of filtering spam is with that little k

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:35 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THEY DON'T WORK. "Works" is a continum, not a binary state. It isn't on/off, yes/no. You would be correct to assert that spam filters aren't perfect. Little is. > The most accurate way of filtering spam is with that little key on

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 14:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Spam filters are a bad idea for one very simple reason: THEY DON'T > WORK. The don't work, because they CAN'T work, because the approach > is flawed. Until we can write programs capable of passing the Turing > test, spam filters are destine

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread Chip Marshall
On May 06, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me the following: > Spam filters are a bad idea for one very simple reason: THEY DON'T > WORK. The don't work, because they CAN'T work, because the approach > is flawed. Until we can write programs capable of passing the Turing > test, spam filters are dest

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-06 Thread VirginSnow
> From: Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 01:44:45 -0400 > Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > > For the record, my list of "dim-witted" ideas also includes things > > like soft power, spam filters, and iPhones. > > > OK, I'll bite :) How do you avoid using spam filter

Re: Spam-Filter-Free Options (Was: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-05 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 5, 2008, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For the record, my list of "dim-witted" ideas also includes things > like soft power, spam filters, and iPhones. OK, I'll bite :) How do you avoid using spam filters? Sounds lovely from here. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner W

PCB Design (was Computer repair shop)

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Monday 05 May 2008 19:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Power *should* be on the internal layers. That's where it belongs, > > for several engineering and manufacturability reasons. Call ideas > > dim-witted > > Care to enlighten us? I guess PCB design is on-topic enough for this > list. (/me

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
DTVZ wrote: > [a rather complete list of points re: internal pwr&gnd planes] Yah, it's been years since I was a bench tech but I'm pretty sure internal pwr&gnd planes are canonical these days. IIRC (and the smart money is betting that I don't) the only drawback is maybe something about oddball

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Briefly, as I am bound for the club to dance until I can't: * Continuous ground plane, or nearly continuous, is highly desirable for prevention of crosstalk and reduction of radiated emissions. * For high-speed purposes, ground plane and power plane are nearly indistinguishable re: above. * Every

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread VirginSnow
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:00:29 -0400 > From: "Drew Van Zandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > > Power *should* be on the internal layers. That's where it belongs, for > several engineering and manufacturability reasons. Call ideas dim-witted Care to enlighten us?

MITS Altair... [??? Was Re: Computer repair shop]

2008-05-05 Thread Carl Helmers
Ben, Minor quibble from one who was there at the time... The MITS Altair 8800 was a circuit board machine :-)> It had no wire wrap. I doubt there was ever a widely marketed wire wrapped early PC kit in those days when Heathkits were the paragon of general electronic kits. The kits I found

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:38 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's usually possible to solder the jack back on and epoxy it. I've also seen hacks where people have soldered leads on to the existing connections inside the case, and run the wires outside to a new jack. Much less elegant, but eas

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Power *should* be on the internal layers. That's where it belongs, for several engineering and manufacturability reasons. Call ideas dim-witted after you have designed a few nontrivial PCBs, please. This is less true of unregulated power, but many of the same design rules hold true. --DTVZ On

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread VirginSnow
> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:33:12 -0400 > From: "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > these days; they just swap parts. A faulty power connector is most > likely going to mean swapping the motherboard. In many laptops, the > motherboard is most of the computer. So, very expensive. (Unless its Seco

Re: Intel 3945 abg card (Was Re: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-05 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 11:36 -0400, Thomas Charron wrote: > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Larry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thomas Charron wrote: > > > > The 8.04 release was made recently, and greatly im

Re: Intel 3945 abg card (Was Re: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-05 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 11:36 -0400, Thomas Charron wrote: > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Larry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thomas Charron wrote: > > > The 8.04 release was made recently, and greatly improves software > > > support. If you do have an Intel 3945 abg card, however, mak

Re: Intel 3945 abg card (Was Re: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-05 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Larry Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Charron wrote: > > The 8.04 release was made recently, and greatly improves software > > support. If you do have an Intel 3945 abg card, however, make sure > > you install the support daemon. > According to this

Intel 3945 abg card (Was Re: Computer repair shop)

2008-05-05 Thread Larry Cook
Thomas Charron wrote: > The 8.04 release was made recently, and greatly improves software > support. If you do have an Intel 3945 abg card, however, make sure > you install the support daemon. According to this FAQ (see the third question), it sounds like newer versions of the 3945 don't need

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/4/08, David Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ubuntu 7.10 and hit the "Install" button. (I'd asked for the max of two CDs > and tried them both.) I can do it again and report more exactly on what > came up, but basically nada. Two folder icons and no ability to do anything > at all. The

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-05 Thread Larry Cook
Hi David, > installing Ubuntu and then finding a wireless card that will work > with it. I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 Desktop on my Dell Inspiron 7500 with an Enterasys RoamAbout 802.11 DS PCMCIA card (it's old and only supports a/b). The only thing I had to do was hold down the left mouse bu

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Ben Scott
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Brian Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Take it to an authorized repair depot. > They can fix it if anyone can. Laptop hardware issues are a PITA. Just to provide a counterpoint to the the "take it to the depot" chorus: Most "authorized service centers" don

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Brian Chabot
Karl Hergenrother wrote: > My wife's 3 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop has had intermittent > charging problems. I have replaced its battery, but that didn't help. > Right now it will not charge at all. I'm fairly sure that the problem > is in the socket on the computer which accepts the cha

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Brian Chabot
David Hardy wrote: > Problem: I scraped the > hard drive (or thought I did) completely in anticipation that she'd want > the Windows os back. [SNIP] > (It would appear to install and then freeze, > and on boot-up the XP boot screen appears, despite my reformatting the > drive.) Sounds more li

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Ben Scott
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:10 PM, David Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have custody of an HP ze4200 laptop ... Apparently, "ze4200" is a "Product Name", which doesn't actually tell us anything useful. The more specific "Model Number" is needed to actually identify the hardware you have. ht

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:34:12 -0400 "Karl Hergenrother" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My wife's 3 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop has had intermittent charging > problems. I have replaced its battery, but that didn't help. Right now it > will not charge at all. I'm fairly sure that the problem i

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread David Hardy
Ubuntu 7.10 and hit the "Install" button. (I'd asked for the max of two CDs and tried them both.) I can do it again and report more exactly on what came up, but basically nada. Two folder icons and no ability to do anything at all. On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Sarunas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Sarunas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Hardy wrote: > And here's another laptop question: > > I have custody of an HP ze4200 laptop that originally was bought/owned > by MIL and had XP on it. She didn't want it after awhile and I > immediately took it and threw Fedora Core 4 on it.

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Sarunas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Hardy wrote: > And here's another laptop question: > > I have custody of an HP ze4200 laptop that originally was bought/owned > by MIL and had XP on it. She didn't want it after awhile and I > immediately took it and threw Fedora Core 4 on it.

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread David Hardy
And here's another laptop question: I have custody of an HP ze4200 laptop that originally was bought/owned by MIL and had XP on it. She didn't want it after awhile and I immediately took it and threw Fedora Core 4 on it. Now, naturally, she wants it back, and now, an internet connection. Problem

Re: Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Thomas Charron
Toshiba has a 'authorized repair depot' store in Nashua.. Computer Hut or something? On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Karl Hergenrother <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My wife's 3 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop has had intermittent charging > problems. I have replaced its battery, but that didn

Computer repair shop

2008-05-04 Thread Karl Hergenrother
My wife's 3 year old Toshiba Satellite laptop has had intermittent charging problems. I have replaced its battery, but that didn't help. Right now it will not charge at all. I'm fairly sure that the problem is in the socket on the computer which accepts the charger plug. Those things must take