Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 12/17/2010 11:54 AM, Ted Roche wrote: The consumer-grade printers are moving towards a business model similar to cell phones: discount the initial purchase then make up the sunk cost with recurring revenues on replaceable inks and printheads. Gillette made a fortune by virtually giving

Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 12/17/2010 11:54 AM, Ted Roche wrote: Slightly less crappy are the business-class machines. I'm on my second HP OfficeJet. Initial cost is higher, but the machines seem to last a long time (first one lasted 5 years), and the costs of replacement (time, aggravation, hours lost) are more

Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-17 Thread Ted Roche
On 12/16/2010 11:11 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: Conversely, this makes the ink cartridges much more expensive. I like designs that use ink tanks but also have easily-replaceable print heads. I know I've seen Canon printers with that design. The consumer-grade printers are moving towards a

Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-17 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ted Roche tedro...@tedroche.com wrote:    But ultimately, I hate ink jets for anything other than photo printing.  It doesn't help that most ink jet printers on the market are incredibly cheap crap. Slightly less crappy are the business-class machines.

Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-17 Thread Ted Roche
On 12/17/2010 12:13 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: I've heard that before, after too many bad experiences with them, I don't believe it. Maybe it was true in the past, maybe it's true for selected models, but as a general rule, it's bunk. Do you feel lucky, punk? You may be right there. I hang

Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-17 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Ted Roche tedro...@tedroche.com wrote: The sum of anecdotal experiences indicate we should just give up on the entire computing field. Best advice I've heard all week. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list

Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-17 Thread David Hardy
Same here. I've been at it off and on since '84 in a variety of roles from night shift drone operator to currently, systems engineer. From DEC to EDS to GE and a lot of other places in between. VAX/VMS, OpenVMS, Windows, NetWare, UNIX, Linux, etc., etc. I no longer even touch hardware; 80%

Re: Inkjets, was: Android printer recommendations

2010-12-17 Thread Bruce Dawson
On 12/17/2010 03:12 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Ted Roche tedro...@tedroche.com wrote: The sum of anecdotal experiences indicate we should just give up on the entire computing field. Best advice I've heard all week. -- Ben I tried to retire from the field.