OT: CRAC

2005-11-03 Thread Bill McGonigle
[Labeling this OT since it only applies to a server environment, and could even apply to other OS's, though "Why would you want to do that?"] So I learned a new acronym today: CRAC - Computer Room Air Conditioning. That's what all the trade rags are calling it though I haven't encountered it

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-03 Thread Brian Chabot
Bill McGonigle wrote: > Now, the question: what really works? Who's in a big colo that uses > passive cooling? Who has a Liebert in a small computer room? Who > just cut a hole in the wall and put in a $79 AC from the warehouse club? > > Any horror or success stories to share? I recently got

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 02:00:35 -0500 Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, the question: what really works? Who's in a big colo that uses > passive cooling? Who has a Liebert in a small computer room? Who just > cut a hole in the wall and put in a $79 AC from the warehouse club? > >

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jon maddog Hall
Ahhh, back on the "discuss list" again! Many, many years ago Aetna Life and Casualty in Hartford, Ct., who was at that time the largest commercial user of IBM equipment in the free world (think about that tag line a minute), bought its first Amdahl (yet another story, but one which will not be tol

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Friday 04 November 2005 2:37 am, Jon maddog Hall wrote: > "Had any problems with these drives?", he asked. When told that they > were having intermittent problems, he nodded. "This room is five degrees > outside spec for these drives.I know, since I designed them." Since we are on AC war

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now, the question: what really works? Who's in a big colo that uses > passive cooling? Who has a Liebert in a small computer room? Who > just cut a hole in the wall and put in a $79 AC from the warehouse > club? Is Liebert supposed to be top of the

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jon maddog Hall
>Since we are on AC war stories. Now you have done it. :-) When I was at Hartford State Technical College we had a REALLY LARGE air conditioner that was supposed to both heat and cool the computer room. When I got to the school (the bulk of which was not air conditioned), I suffered through real

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Friday 04 November 2005 3:45 am, Jon maddog Hall wrote: > >Since we are on AC war stories. > > Now you have done it. :-) > > When I was at Hartford State Technical College we had a REALLY LARGE air > conditioner that was supposed to both heat and cool the computer room. I went to school where a

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-04 Thread Ben Scott
On 11/4/05, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CRAC - Computer Room Air Conditioning. ... what really works? Like most things, this really depends on what you're doing. How much equipment? How much heat does it put out? What are your availability requirements? Running NYSE requires

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:26:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin D. Clark) wrote: > Is Liebert supposed to be top of the line or something? I ask out of > complete ignorance and perverse fascination. A company that I > am familiar with had some big Liebert cooling gear. Given that > company's track

Re: OT: CRAC

2005-11-07 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For small setups (handfuls of commodity x86 servers running in small > businesses), Does 300+ still count as a handful? ;) > PCs are a lot more tolerant of temperature and humidity then the > mini's and mainframes of yore. The ideal temperature for mo