Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-27 Thread Fred
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 14:49 -0500, Bill McGonigle wrote: > > > And it won't have a monitor attached, so you can't just > > turn it on and let them see the flashy little lights their pea-sized > > intelligence can barely recognize as not being a bomb. > > As if the amount of semtex that would fit

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-27 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Dec 18, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Fred wrote: And it won't have a monitor attached, so you can't just turn it on and let them see the flashy little lights their pea-sized intelligence can barely recognize as not being a bomb. As if the amount of semtex that would fit in a CD-ROM drive bay is meaningles

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-23 Thread Bill McGonigle
> On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 10:03, Dan Jenkins wrote: > >> Since it is a scheduled task, why not just schedule it outside of >> presentation times? > > slocate on my laptop is particularly annoying, since it is not always on > running Linux, and almost always runs slocate shortly after startup > right

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-23 Thread Fred
On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 10:03, Dan Jenkins wrote: > Since it is a scheduled task, why not just schedule it outside of > presentation times? slocate on my laptop is particularly annoying, since it is not always on running Linux, and almost always runs slocate shortly after startup right at the time

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-22 Thread Matt Brodeur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:03:01AM -0500, Dan Jenkins wrote: > The slocate database build is scheduled in my default cron (from > Mandrake's default install) at 4:22 am on Sunday. > > Since it is a scheduled task, why not just schedule it outside of

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-22 Thread Dan Jenkins
Mark Komarinski wrote: Under normal circumstances, you'd be right. But the concern here is the overhead of (s)locate building its database at the wrong time. If the concern of waiting a few additional seconds or remembering the command line for find outweighs your system's hard drive churning awa

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-22 Thread Dan Jenkins
Cole Tuininga wrote: On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 07:14 -0500, Travis Roy wrote: Or: slocate -i mozilla or "find / | grep -i mozilla" Tell you what, we'll time the two and see which comes back quicker. 8) time locate 0047 0.12user 0.03system 0:00.14elapsed time find / |grep 0047 0.42user 1.17sys

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-22 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:05:33AM -0500, Cole Tuininga wrote: > On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 07:14 -0500, Travis Roy wrote: > > > > > > Or: > > > > > > slocate -i mozilla > > > > or "find / | grep -i mozilla" > > Tell you what, we'll time the two and see which comes back quicker. 8) Under norma

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-22 Thread Travis Roy
Cole Tuininga wrote: On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 07:14 -0500, Travis Roy wrote: Or: slocate -i mozilla or "find / | grep -i mozilla" Tell you what, we'll time the two and see which comes back quicker. 8) Oh, no doubt that slocate is faster. Just pointing out that there are other ways to do stuff tha

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-22 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 07:14 -0500, Travis Roy wrote: > > > > Or: > > > > slocate -i mozilla > > or "find / | grep -i mozilla" Tell you what, we'll time the two and see which comes back quicker. 8) -- A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to i

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-22 Thread Travis Roy
Or: slocate -i mozilla or "find / | grep -i mozilla" ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-21 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, at 8:46pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Heh. I use it all the time. "I know I downloaded/saved a copy of a >> file that had info on/does that...". > > Ah, well... that's what hierarchical directory trees are for... ;-) Sure, but did I put that document about Mozilla un

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-21 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 08:16:08PM -0500, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, at 10:57am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Personally, I think running slocate via cron is a waste of time on a > > personal machine. ... To be honest though, I never use locate, so for me > > it's pretty much poin

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-21 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, at 10:57am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Personally, I think running slocate via cron is a waste of time on a > personal machine. ... To be honest though, I never use locate, so for me > it's pretty much pointless to have the cron job. Heh. I use it all the time. "I know I d

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-20 Thread Michael ODonnell
> Hyperthreading uses two execution pipelines, but shares L1/L2 cache. > So if the apps share some of the same memory and is CPU-bound, > you'll see a performance benefit, since the two threads can hit > L1/L2 cache. > > So what happens when you run two different apps? One app has a > cache mis

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-20 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 10:57:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 10:29:37AM -0500, Bruce Dawson wrote: > > No. This can't be a dedicated-task system. Also, the app uses things > > like cron and sendmail to exchange survey data with a satellite - which > > unfortunately needs

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-20 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 10:29:37AM -0500, Bruce Dawson wrote: > On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 09:50, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > > Bruce Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Essentially, I want one processor to handle a request while the other > > > processor is "busy". If Linux and hyperthreading can do t

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-20 Thread Jon maddog Hall
Bruce, With a sufficiently fast CPU, just by putting the "realtime visual" task at a high enough priority should stop most "blips" from happening. Other than that, you could try RT Linux, and put your "realtime visual" task as one of the realtime components. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Di

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-20 Thread Bruce Dawson
On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 09:50, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Bruce Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Essentially, I want one processor to handle a request while the other > > processor is "busy". If Linux and hyperthreading can do that, then a > > hyperthreading CPU would be fine. Context switching is

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-20 Thread Michael ODonnell
Ah. I had thought the requirements for MP were more crisp. But if MP has simply been spec'd a general hedge against GUI update latencies or other human interface quality issues, I'll bet you a beer that a single hyperthreaded core will address most such issues (assuming there is any MP aspect t

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-20 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Bruce Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Essentially, I want one processor to handle a request while the other > processor is "busy". If Linux and hyperthreading can do that, then a > hyperthreading CPU would be fine. Context switching is an issue on this > traveling workstation - there will be

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-19 Thread Bruce Dawson
On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 19:36, Michael ODonnell wrote: > SMP was mentioned as a requirement. Does the hyperthreading > offered by certain Intel CPUs meet that requirement, or will > only two physically distinct CPU packages suffice? Interesting question. I don't know enough about the various vendor

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-19 Thread Michael ODonnell
SMP was mentioned as a requirement. Does the hyperthreading offered by certain Intel CPUs meet that requirement, or will only two physically distinct CPU packages suffice? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailm

RE: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-19 Thread Brian Karas
I've done something similar at a few job rev's now. Some things I've learned... Get a case with wheels, I use musicians hard cases most of the time, you can find them at Daddy's or similar music outlets. Even an 8 oz laptop gets heavy after 2 layovers, 1 delay and 15 hours of travel :) Weight

RE: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-19 Thread Neal Richardson
And as I recall we had 4 and only one was working at any given time. -Neal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael ODonnell Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Looking for a good portable linux

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-19 Thread Fred
On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 06:27, Chris Brenton wrote: > On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 16:40, Fred wrote: > > > > Are you sure you can trust the TSA to leave it alone and not steal it or > > think it's a bomb? > > I will second Fred's comments but not because of TSA. I think it has > more to do with the baggag

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-19 Thread Fred
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 17:22, Ben Boulanger wrote: > > turn it on and let them see the flashy little lights their pea-sized > > intelligence can barely recognize as not being a bomb. > > Hey... I work for TSA! Obviously not as the morons who check baggage. Of if you do, you are the exception that

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-19 Thread Chris Brenton
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 16:40, Fred wrote: > > Are you sure you can trust the TSA to leave it alone and not steal it or > think it's a bomb? I will second Fred's comments but not because of TSA. I think it has more to do with the baggage handlers. I've had stuff stolen out of my checked luggage (cab

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-18 Thread Hewitt Tech
you'd like to eyeball it. - Original Message - From: "Michael ODonnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Looking for a good portable linux system > > > It sounds like the mini

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-18 Thread Michael ODonnell
It sounds like the mini-ITX form factor might be what you're looking for. Example: http://www.cappuccinopc.com/mocha7043j.asp In the latter days of MCLX we had a machine like that for dog&pony demos at customer sites and I recall that it was reasonably fast and survived a lot of frantic plane

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-18 Thread Bruce Dawson
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 16:40, Fred wrote: > On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 11:08, Bruce Dawson wrote: > ... > > I don't care much about weight (unless it can't withstand the rigors of > > a plane's cargo hold), but it does have to be reliable and moderately > > rugged. This unit will be collecting a lot of a

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-18 Thread Ben Boulanger
> turn it on and let them see the flashy little lights their pea-sized > intelligence can barely recognize as not being a bomb. Hey... I work for TSA! -- "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing li

Re: Looking for a good portable linux system

2004-12-18 Thread Fred
On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 11:08, Bruce Dawson wrote: ... > I don't care much about weight (unless it can't withstand the rigors of > a plane's cargo hold), but it does have to be reliable and moderately > rugged. This unit will be collecting a lot of air miles, (but won't be > used while onboard the pl