Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info writes:
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 10:50 -0500, Paul Lussier wrote:
That being said, I can only hope for the quick, and painful demise of
both MySql and PHP.
--
Paul - who is trapped in a company with close to 1 million MySql
databases being accessed by
Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org writes:
On the other hand, I wonder how many government installations are
running MySQL at this pointnot that it would or should influence
anything.
Most MediaWiki installs use MySql by default.
Most WordPress installs use MySql by default.
Most Joomla
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 10:50 -0500, Paul Lussier wrote:
.
That being said, I can only hope for the quick, and painful demise of
both MySql and PHP.
--
Paul - who is trapped in a company with close to 1 million MySql
databases being accessed by really bad PHP code.
...because having
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info wrote:
Paul - who is trapped in a company with close to 1 million MySql
databases being accessed by really bad PHP code.
...because having close to 1 million {PostgreSQL, Interbase, CouchDB,
SQLite} databases being
Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info writes:
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 10:50 -0500, Paul Lussier wrote:
That being said, I can only hope for the quick, and painful demise of
both MySql and PHP.
--
Paul - who is trapped in a company with close to 1 million MySql
databases being
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 16:03 -0500, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
Stephen Ryan step...@sryanfamily.info writes:
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 10:50 -0500, Paul Lussier wrote:
That being said, I can only hope for the quick, and painful demise of
both MySql and PHP.
--
Paul - who is
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen
roz...@geekspace.com wrote:
(:flame
Well, `bad' is not necessarily as *ingrained* into those
other languages (or DBs) or their cultures)
Anyone who blames bad code on the language has a far bigger problem
than the language they're
While we're debating which language is best, I thought I'd share this
pictorial argument:
http://www.bootup.io/img/auximg/developers-as-seen-by.jpg
plus, an update for haskell
http://i.imgur.com/hF6mS.jpg
update for C# / .net
http://jakemcgraw.com/imgs/langs.jpg
Greg Rundlett
nbpt 978-225-8302
On 01/08/2010 05:21 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
Anyone who blames bad code on the language has a far bigger problem
than the language they're using.
(Since we're inciting to riot.)
Yeah, no sense throwing rationality into a good flamefest.
A wise man told me long ago, It's a poor craftsman who
It's a poor craftsman who blames *only* his tools, without trying to find
better ones. It's no better for a craftsman to ignore the effects a tool
has on the product.
I have yet to find a hardware design toolchain that isn't maddening in at
least half a hundred ways. Even the free / open source
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Jeffry Smith jsm...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
Could it be the community hasn't stood up because you have to assign
copyright to MySQL/Sun/Oracle, and people don't like giving their work
to a company to run their business without compensation.
What, you don't like
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Jeffry Smith jsm...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
Could it be the community hasn't stood up because you have to assign
copyright to MySQL/Sun/Oracle, and people don't like giving their work
to a
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Jeffry Smith jsm...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
Seems that no one else does either. Amazing how Red Hat can get all
those folks to contribute, but MySQL can't. Oh, right - Red Hat GPLs
their code, and doesn't (as far as I know) require you to assign
copyright to them.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com wrote:
Woah there nelly. RedHat was just as bad in some cases. Take a
look at the eCos situation from several years ago, specifically, the
'Red Hat eCos Public License'.
Yah, and how'd that work out for them?
-- Ben
On 01/01/2010 11:19 AM, Ted Roche wrote:
Passing on this email. I'd be interested in your opinions of the issues
raised.
So Monty want the EU to *force* Oracle to compete against MySQL?
Didn't he sell-out already?
-Bill
--
Bill McGonigle, Owner
BFC Computing, LLC
http://bfccomputing.com/
What strikes me is his apparent non-belief in Open Source. Basically,
he's arguing that you need to force the disgorgement to protect the
current proprietary MySQL clients, and they're needed for continuing
development, because the Open Source community hasn't/won't stood up
to support MySQL.
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
It is a sad situation, but one that happens every once in a while, and
particularly when a profit-making company heads up a FOSS project.
In 2008 Sun bought MySQL for 1 Billion dollars, 800 million in cash and
200 million
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
No, but its a sign of developer interest and activity. Sqlite and postgres
have Py3 support, MySQL does not.
That doesn't equal MySQL is stagnant. Perhaps there's simply not
much interest in MySQL within the Python
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:57 -0500, Ben Scott wrote:
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
No, but its a sign of developer interest and activity. Sqlite and postgres
have Py3 support, MySQL does not.
That doesn't equal MySQL is stagnant. Perhaps there's
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ted Roche tedro...@tedroche.com wrote:
Passing on this email. I'd be interested in your opinions of the issues
raised.
MySQL is GPL. Oracle can do whatever they want, but the code itself
has already been freed (as in freedom). Oracle can't put that genie
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
We have PostgreSQL, which has a much healthier development community and Py3
support already.
Shocking though this may be to some, Python support is not
*everyone's* most critical feature.
-- Ben
No, but its a sign of developer interest and activity. Sqlite and postgres
have Py3 support, MySQL does not.
On Jan 1, 2010 2:43 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Arc Riley arcri...@gmail.com wrote: We
have PostgreSQL, which h...
Shocking though this
It is a sad situation, but one that happens every once in a while, and
particularly when a profit-making company heads up a FOSS project.
In 2008 Sun bought MySQL for 1 Billion dollars, 800 million in cash and
200 million in options. Someone got a lot of money, and quite a few
people probably
The feelings on the Oracle acquisition seem quite split in the open source
community. Eben Moglen of the Software Freedom Law Center wrote an opinion
to the European Commission in favor of the acquisition [1] and Pamela Jones
of Groklaw has written a few articles about the merger in support
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 11:43 -0500, Arc Riley wrote:
We have PostgreSQL, which has a much healthier development community
and Py3 support already.
The MySQL community is already fractured from the Sun purchase, isn't
it a little late to save it?
Sun did not do too much harm. MySQL fills a
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