Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-08 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:08:59 EDT Randy Edwards said: Debian rules, RH Sucks vi is for wimps Linux Hm, can't really find much to disagree with. Inconsistent rubbish. Any *real* Debianer knows it's GNU/Linux -- just like Debian prints on its web site.

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread Erik Price
Hmm, now that I think about it, it's been a while since we had a decent flame war around here, so, since I remembered my asbestos underwear today, let me lob the first volley ;) Debian rules, RH Sucks vi is for wimps Linux Hm, can't really find much to disagree with.

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread pll
In a message dated: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 18:49:53 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Certain other rabid zealots fired back remarks about how KDE is under the GPL, so Red Hat can do anything they darn well please. Naturally, they also had to bring up the throughly dead KDE/Qt licensing issue one more

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 10:48:15AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, now that I think about it, it's been a while since we had a decent flame war around here, so, since I remembered my asbestos underwear today, let me lob the first volley ;) Debian rules, RH Sucks vi is

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread pll
In a message dated: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 20:52:46 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have always, by accident rather then by dint of planning, moved from N.1 or N.2 to N+1.1 so I have yet to experience a RH N.0 release. I do this by design. My rule of thumb is *always* avoid an X.0 release of

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread pll
In a message dated: 05 Oct 2002 22:35:55 EDT Paul Iadonisi said: Here, I'm afraid, I somewhat agree. The new window manager for Gnome 2.0, metacity, is basically crippling for me. Well, it's good to know that I haven't missed *anything* by sticking with fvwm over the years :) Someone

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread steveo
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Ed Lawson wrote: =On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 10:48:15 -0400 =[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = = = Hmm, now that I think about it, it's been a while since we had a = decent flame war around here, so, since I remembered my asbestos = underwear today, let me lob the first volley ;) = =

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] It's now impossible to have the Gnome panel(s) be anything but always-on-top. Is this only if you're running Gnome? Or does it apply to running the panel in other windows managers? NITPICK Gnome is not a window manager. You

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] - and an X.3 release is pretty much unheard of, and IMO, indicative of just how much was wrong with the entire 7.x series :) Minor nit: I know the inside story about why there was a 7.3 and can only say

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread pll
In a message dated: 07 Oct 2002 14:55:11 EDT Paul Iadonisi said: On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] It's now impossible to have the Gnome panel(s) be anything but always-on-top. Is this only if you're running Gnome? Or does it apply to running the panel in

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread pll
In a message dated: 07 Oct 2002 15:07:26 EDT Paul Iadonisi said: On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] - and an X.3 release is pretty much unheard of, and IMO, indicative of just how much was wrong with the entire 7.x series :) Minor nit: I

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 15:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: 07 Oct 2002 15:07:26 EDT Paul Iadonisi said: On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 11:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] - and an X.3 release is pretty much unheard of, and IMO, indicative of just how much was

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread pll
In a message dated: 07 Oct 2002 15:50:12 EDT Paul Iadonisi said: The basic issue is that Red Hat only bumps major release numbers when there are backward (or is it forward? Or both maybe? I forgot) binary compatibility issues. I think the fact that they stuck with the .0, .1, .2 release

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread Randy Edwards
Debian rules, RH Sucks vi is for wimps Linux Hm, can't really find much to disagree with. Inconsistent rubbish. Any *real* Debianer knows it's GNU/Linux -- just like Debian prints on its web site. And while vi isn't my favorite editor, I'm afraid to nominate joe

Re: Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-07 Thread bscott
On 7 Oct 2002, at 3:50pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor nit: I know the inside story about why there was a 7.3 and can only say that it had zero to do with the problems or lack of problems with 7.2. The basic issue is that Red Hat only bumps major release numbers when there are backward

Red Hat's Bluecurve (was: Red Hat 8.0 is 'official')

2002-10-05 Thread bscott
On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, at 9:53am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or are you referring to the much-overblown Bluecurve issue? Since I don't follow RH's releases very closely anymore, care to educate me (and other non-RH fanatics :) on what the Bluecurve issue is? With Red Hat Linux 8.0, Red Hat