Re: Software Patents

2010-07-23 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
... depending on where the patent is granted. Sorry, this is a fiction. When a USA company creates a device, they typically pay the patents across the board, not just on the units that are going to countries that respect patents. When companies are building products, they make product decisions

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-23 Thread Ryan Stanyan
the United States and Argentina concerning pharmaceutical patents, the article mandates that signatories provide technology patents without discrimination. So while the EU has rejected software patents for the time being, there come a time in the future where this part of the treaty

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-21 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org writes: Given that the patent system is an impingement on the liberties of 300,000,000 people (telling them what they may not do with their own property) to benefit one person or a small handful of his cohorts, the hurdle to prove the case ought to be set

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-20 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 07/18/2010 09:02 AM, Bruce Dawson wrote: I can't think of any evidence that will prove the opposite - unless a lot of software businesses are willing to open their books and their legal papers. Well, you can't make a reasonable policy decision absent data on available alternatives. Given

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-20 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Given that the patent system is an impingement on the liberties of 300,000,000 people (telling them what they may not do with their own property) to benefit one person or a small handful of his cohorts, the hurdle to prove the case ought to be set very, very high. I would argue that the

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-18 Thread Bruce Dawson
Jeffry Smith wrote: On 07/17/2010 10:17 AM, Bruce Dawson wrote: Software patents are bad for the industry - its one reason I retired early rather than spend all my time fending off patent trolls instead of innovating. US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8: [congress

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-18 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: This article about software patents popped up today. Any comments about the relevance and possibilities of software patent reform to the point of reversal and removal? http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives

Software Patents

2010-07-17 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
This article about software patents popped up today. Any comments about the relevance and possibilities of software patent reform to the point of reversal and removal? http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2010/07/death_knell_for.html;jsessionid=GXGKJE0XM2GPJQE1GHPSKH4ATMY32JVN?cid

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-17 Thread Bruce Dawson
Software patents are bad for the industry - its one reason I retired early rather than spend all my time fending off patent trolls instead of innovating. However, its going to take a few more decisive blows against software patents before corporate lawyers decide its a lost game. Or before

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
there is an economic loss to the individual or business. The elimination of software patents will remove a lot of these trolls. Additionally, New Zealand is about to outlaw software patents altogether. On 07/17/2010 10:17 AM, Bruce Dawson wrote: Software patents are bad for the industry - its

Re: Software Patents

2010-07-17 Thread Jeffry Smith
On 07/17/2010 10:17 AM, Bruce Dawson wrote: Software patents are bad for the industry - its one reason I retired early rather than spend all my time fending off patent trolls instead of innovating. US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8: [congress shall have the power ...]To promote

Re: Last word not yet in on software patents.

2007-05-22 Thread Bruce Dawson
LDR wrote: On our way to Redmond. See http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/22/1224259 (Microsoft will not sue over Linux patents) And I was reading (can't find where at the moment) where some were advertising Sue Me, Sue Me in an attempt to get Microsoft to reveal the patents being

Re: Last word not yet in on software patents.

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/22/1224259 (Microsoft will not sue over Linux patents) Hmmm. From the actual article: If we wanted to go down that road we could have done that three years ago, said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Re: Last word not yet in on software patents.

2007-05-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On 5/22/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/22/07, Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/22/1224259 (Microsoft will not sue over Linux patents) Hmmm. From the actual article: If we wanted to go down that road we could have done that

Re: Last word not yet in on software patents.

2007-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 5/22/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gets me is, don't they *HAVE* to defend the patents? I know that applies to Trademarks, but I would assume that they'd have no leg to stand on if they blatently allowed one party to publically be violating their patents, and then turn

European Ministers approve software patents, Parliamentary vote still pending...

2005-03-08 Thread Ted Roche
At last nights CentraLUG meeting, there was discussion over the status of European software patent rules. It appears that I was a day late and dollar short in my information: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/07/ec_says_yes_patents/ If I understand correctly, the European Council of

Re: European Ministers approve software patents, Parliamentary vote still pending...

2005-03-08 Thread Bill Sconce
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:52:54 -0500 Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At last nights CentraLUG meeting, there was discussion over the status of European software patent rules... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/07/ec_says_yes_patents/ For more info, there has been good ongoing history