Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 9, 2004, at 14:32, Brian Riley (maillist) wrote: When I want to download a big ISO, I get 140-150 MB in the morning, then the next 140-150 in the afternoon and so on using a download manager that lets me stop and cleanly restart. You could also do: curl --limit-rate 6K -C - -O http://foo.exa

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Brian Riley (maillist)
Oh yes, there are some real dirtbags on both Dish and Direct internet services ... I was lucky I found a local dealer in Milton, VT who was a real pleasure to work with. On 9/9/04 11:32 AM, "Bill McGonigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Plus the local Direcway licensees were scum, trying to get

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Brian Riley (maillist)
The latency will kill you for fast twitch gaming. No question about it. All in all DSL or cable is a better deal. Satellite is really for us guys who live where the cable/phone guys don't want to spend the money on the infrastructure and the local towns don''t have the balls to stand up to them a

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Brian Riley (maillist)
Ooppps that was $100 up front and $100/mo versus $600 upfront and $60 a month - same service, just one way is financing the equipment and installation. On 9/9/04 10:37 AM, "Paul Lussier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:01:27 EDT > "Brian Riley (maillist)" sai

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Brian Riley (maillist)
NO, what there is is called "Fair Access Policy', implemented in software. Iwhat it comes down to is you can average 22 MB every hour for ever. You start off with a 167 MB credit (more for commercial packages which cost more bucks) and can draw against that as fast as you want, but that hastens the

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2004-09-09 Thread bscott
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, at 10:37am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What's the latency like on that? I'm assuming with a 48K mile round-trip > minimum for every packet, latency must be rather high? It's closer to 100K mile. Geostationary orbit is about 25K miles up. For a round-trip, that means 25K f

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 9, 2004, at 10:37, Paul Lussier wrote: Did the $4100/$100/$60 get you a higher quality of service? FYI, he meant $100, not $4100 (lack of a shift key on the 4). They basically let you pay for equipment over time at a total of ~$100 extra. High interest rate, but easier to swallow for man

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:37 -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: > In a message dated: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:01:27 EDT > "Brian Riley (maillist)" said: > > >My download speeds are on the order of cable speeds and upload is slower but > >At least as good as most DSL. > > What's the latency like on that? I'm

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:01:27 EDT "Brian Riley (maillist)" said: >My download speeds are on the order of cable speeds and upload is slower but >At least as good as most DSL. What's the latency like on that? I'm assuming with a 48K mile round-trip minimum for every packet, latency

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-09 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 23:01:27 -0400 "Brian Riley (maillist)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had Direcway bi-directional satellite since April and am fairly > happy with it. Isn't there a daily download limit of 500 or 800 MB? -- Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Boston Linux and Unix user

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-08 Thread Brian Riley (maillist)
f >> Jeff Macdonald >> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:57 PM >> To: Bill McGonigle >> Cc: GNHLUG Discussion >> Subject: Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps >> >> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 14:24:07 -0400, Bill McGonigle >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-02 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Sep 1, 2004, at 14:57, Jeff Macdonald wrote: I believe that the 3Mbps doesn't work with the remote terminals. Got any URLs? I was wonder what that was all about. I found this: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11201302~mode=flat which seems to indicate the backhaul to the DSLAM governs the

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 15:20:10 -0400, Sharpe, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone tried Satellite ? Dish or Direct-Way ? Works great, but the latency is kinda harsh.. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mai

RE: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread Sharpe, Richard
tener fe" ("We must have faith") > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jeff Macdonald > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:57 PM > To: Bill McGonigle > Cc: GNHLUG Discussion > Subject: Re: Veriz

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 14:24:07 -0400, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I was reading about DSL out of 'remote terminals'. I guess they > can put a DSLAM in the neighborhood boxes that fiber optics land at. > I believe that the 3Mbps doesn't work with the remote terminals. Got any U

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread bscott
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, at 2:01pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > HB495 didn't get passed .. but it basically said that if somebody has > their access point open that they did it like that on purpose. Uhh... if it didn't get passed then it does not matter *what* the bill said. A bill has precisely zero

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread Bill McGonigle
I've got Adelphia due to lack of availability of DSL here (and the cable modem winds up in a swamp with a couple wireless hops to get it here) and it's mostly been good (5 minute reboot time on their DHCP server after a power outage though, I think they need a UPS). I'm 6.5 miles from the CO. T

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread Travis Roy
EMAIL PROTECTED] "Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have faith") -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Macdonald Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:06 PM To: GNHLUG Subject: Verizon offering 3Mbps http://www.dslr

RE: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread bscott
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, at 7:50am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I wish I could get it, but not in my part of Merrimack, I would need > Adelphia and I will not use them. I'd rather have Adelphia then dial-up. Yah, Adelphia sucks, but when it comes to ISPs, Sturgeon's Law is overly optimistic. -- Ben

RE: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread Sharpe, Richard
) 578-1072 EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have faith") > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jeff Macdonald > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:06 PM > To: GNHLUG >

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-09-01 Thread Travis Roy
I have been very happy with my ADSL service from MV Communications. Sure I had issues when I first got it hooked up (due to Verizon being stupid, not MV) but since then it's been great. On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, at 10:06pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/53311 http://ars

Re: Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-08-31 Thread bscott
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, at 10:06pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/53311 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980609 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980610 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980611 ;-) -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The

Verizon offering 3Mbps

2004-08-31 Thread Jeff Macdonald
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/53311 -- Jeff Macdonald Ayer, MA ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss