Re: Why are still not at 64 bits and a bit of Linux History

2007-02-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:35:23 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course having VMS only 32-bit on the VAX made sense, as you could not get the architecture to be 64-bit. If Alpha VMS was only 32-bit, I would think that would have been another classic mistake by Digital. If

Re: Why are still not at 64 bits and a bit of Linux History

2007-02-15 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 15:43 -0500, Thomas Charron wrote: On 2/15/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/15/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Microsoft doesn't support a 64-bit address space, even today, in Vista. Hey, it's only been like, what, 14 years since the Alpha

Re: Why are still not at 64 bits and a bit of Linux History

2007-02-15 Thread Thomas Charron
On 2/15/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timeline: May, 1994 - Met Linus Torvalds at DECUS in New Orleans after funding his trip to speak on Lyenooks. Saw Leenooks for the first time.* *SNIP* maddog, that's an awesome little writeup. :-D Note next reply below, however..

Re: Why are still not at 64 bits and a bit of Linux History

2007-02-15 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
maddog, that's an awesome little writeup. :-D Actually, the story was much stranger and more unbelievable than that. If I told you the whole story, you would probably think I was lying, or at least making it up in some places. That is what is so amazing about this project and this

Re: Why are still not at 64 bits and a bit of Linux History

2007-02-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:56:15 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually thought that VMS was 64-bit right from the get-go on Alpha (1993), but I could be wrong on that No. It was 32-bits on the Alpha and still is. I followed up on that last year at the IDF in Houston. It

Re: Why are still not at 64 bits and a bit of Linux History

2007-02-15 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 17:25 -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:56:15 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually thought that VMS was 64-bit right from the get-go on Alpha (1993), but I could be wrong on that No. It was 32-bits on the Alpha and still

Re: Why are still not at 64 bits and a bit of Linux History

2007-02-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:35:23 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course having VMS only 32-bit on the VAX made sense, as you could not get the architecture to be 64-bit. If Alpha VMS was only 32-bit, I would think that would have been another classic mistake by Digital. If