Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-22 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Sunday 22 April 2007 20:38:35 Jarod Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 00:07:58 Jarod Wilson wrote: > > Give me a few more days to iron out a couple of remaining details, and > > I'll get you guys access to the latest and greatest MythDora. > > I'll finally be pushing isos out to a publi

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-22 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 00:07:58 Jarod Wilson wrote: > Give me a few more days to iron out a couple of remaining details, and I'll > get you guys access to the latest and greatest MythDora. I'll finally be pushing isos out to a public server tonight. Once they've made their way up there, I'll

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-08 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Sunday 08 April 2007 02:05:01 Fran Fadden wrote: > Sorry to jump in at this late date, but a couple ideas occurred to me while > I was going through the MythTV threads. > > One suggestion for dealing with the balance between handholding the base > system install and requiring that folks come wit

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-07 Thread Fran Fadden
Sorry to jump in at this late date, but a couple ideas occurred to me while I was going through the MythTV threads. One suggestion for dealing with the balance between handholding the base system install and requiring that folks come with FC6 (or XXX) already installed would be to have staggered

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-04 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 3, 2007, at 21:22, Ben Scott wrote: I also think we should revisit the idea of using one of the "canned MythTV" distributions, like KnoppMyth or MythDora. Just following along here, reading the notes and Jarod's work with MythDora - I'll offer a general 'I concur'. Consider there a

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-04 Thread Bill Sconce
A pilot is an experiment. The purpose of an experiment is to provide evidence. Evidence of what doesn't work is as important as evidence of what does, in a case like this. So far, so good. What we don't know, and what no one can know until the necessary passes at the experiment have been run, i

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-04 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
> It seems like, whatever approach we've taken, each install has run > into a bump, glitch, kink, or big brick wall at some point. How many > installs have gone perfectly, exactly according to the instructions? > How much can we expect? 25% of the systems? 50%, 75%? Stated another > way, how muc

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-04 Thread aluminumsulfate
> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:26:47 -0400 > From: "Jon 'maddog' Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Even if we were successful at creating a "step-by-step" that was good > > > enough for people to do it all themselves, there is still that "personal > > > touch" ... > > > > A very good point. > > > >

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
> > > And since all it took to put that traffic on a separate LAN was one > > crossover cable and some configuration, he wanted to do that. > > I'm not saying he shouldn't have done that. I'm just saying we > shouldn't go around saying "You're going to need dedicated networks" > unless we act

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tuesday 03 April 2007 23:26:44 Ben Scott wrote: > On 4/3/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, the figure given for a Series 3 TiVo is 32 hours of high def > on a 250 GB disk. That works out to 8 Gbyte/hour, or 19 Mbit/second. I generally see about 6.5 to 8GB/hr for my HDT

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/3/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do we know that? By my calculations, even the worst-case figure for high definition video is less than 30 megabits per second. One stream or two streams? 28 megabits per second, per stream. That's using the "6 to 12 GB per hour" for

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 21:22 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On 4/3/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> This was because he wanted to put the HDHomeRun on a separate LAN from > >>> the rest of his network > >> > >> ... because he had a wireless LAN for his main home network. (FYI.) > >

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/3/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This was because he wanted to put the HDHomeRun on a separate LAN from the rest of his network ... because he had a wireless LAN for his main home network. (FYI.) Even if he had a different type of LAN, for the type of traffic that two

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 08:09 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On 4/3/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - Fedora Core 6 anaconda installer installed i586 kernel on i686 systems > > > > This was combined with the fact that the PVR-150 drivers were not in the > > kernel, so had to be broug

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/3/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Fedora Core 6 anaconda installer installed i586 kernel on i686 systems This was combined with the fact that the PVR-150 drivers were not in the kernel, so had to be brought over. Actually, I thought that, once we had loaded the right

Brazillian (was: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem)

2007-04-03 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/3/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Downloading and installing the brazilian Fedora Core updates took forever for new installs (two people) Uhhh, it took me a while to realize that Ben was talking about "a lot" of Fedora Core updates. They were not trying to get them from

Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I am trying desperately to get ready for a two-week trip to Brazil and still have not had time to do a full "postmortem", but I do have a few notes on what Ben said. I will also copy Sterling Hough, both to let him know that we are analyzing what went on, and to thank his staff and him for keeping

MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem

2007-04-02 Thread Ben Scott
I've dropped the NHTI folks on the assumption that they are uninterested in the detailed postmortem. On 4/2/07, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Finally starting to feel human again... Good to hear you're rejoining the human race. :) I look forward to the full brief, particularly w