Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread joshua simmons
Actually no, I can't even say that. Hitting the same place on the edge of the screen every time is way easier than hitting the window decorations, wherever they might be or however far it might be to the menu. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM, joshua simmons wrote: > Except that it's only a minor

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread joshua simmons
Except that it's only a minor regression for those with massive screens, negligible (I still prefer it) for those with average screens, and it's a seriously huge advantage for the plethora of small screened devices out there. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:48 AM, John Stowers wrote: > > > Also, the ide

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:30 AM, John Stowers wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 14:04 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: >> I just downloaded unity/Ubuntu 11.04 and was playing with it. >> >> >> One feature I really like is the application menu is in the top bar. >> (ie: the File   Edit   View   Go   Boo

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 10:28 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > >If I'm powering off it's because I'm unplugging the computer. If I'm > rebooting it's to update to the new kernel. The, what I that was a > lack, of >other options was annoying. > > This is one of the reasons why the GNOME Shell was

Re: RFC: compat list

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
Oh how about another idea. have an extension that gathers the key info about the hardware. Allow the user a rating. Something like smolt idea. Even post versions of the graphics drivers. Just thinking out loud here. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
I think it's fine to have the option under the ALT key... the problem is how does the normal user find out? Although with that said... would we want to be more green and go full hibernate? On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Allan E. Registos < allan.regis...@smpc.steniel.com.ph> wrote: > > > >

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
>- Original Message - >From: "G. Michael Carter" >To: "Adam Williamson" >Cc: "gnome-shell-list" >Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 10:17:58 AM >Subject: Re: Feedback > > >If I'm powering off it's because I'm unplugging the computer. If I'm rebooting >it's to update to the new kernel. The, wh

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
If I'm powering off it's because I'm unplugging the computer. If I'm rebooting it's to update to the new kernel. The, what I that was a lack, of other options was annoying. But the ALT key works for me. Are these tips posted somewhere? Guess I should have looked at the help maybe ;) On Mon

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 20:49 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Allan E. Registos > wrote: > On Saturday, 30 April, 2011 09:40 PM, Jasper St. Pierre > wrote: > > == Suspend instead of Shutdown == > > >

Re: RFC: compat list

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
We should have this compatibility list started on the Gnome 3 site. With a spot to put their hardware/experience. That way people can see at a glance what works and what doesn't. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 14:31 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: >

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 09:40 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > It should only be a default if we detect you computer can support it. > > Can you give us some hardware details, and try: > > pm-utils --suspend && echo "Supported" || echo "Not supported" > > in a terminal? I hope you realize thi

Re: RFC: compat list

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 14:31 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi Sergey, > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > > > > Would it make sense to consolidate all HW+GL-related information > > (requirements) on a single page on live.gnome.org? Minimal list of > > extensions, hints ("

Re: Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 16:30, Evandro Giovanini wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Jason D. Clinton > wrote: > > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 08:49, Adam Tauno Williams < > awill...@whitemice.org> > > wrote: > >> > >> I don't believe gnote is part of the official GNOME applications list. > >> > >

Re: Thumbs up!

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 09:25 -0430, Dokuro wrote: > I am using it on an intel chipset, it does not look perfect > (transparency problems) but it works really nice Please file a bug with your distribution or with X.org if you haven't already - as long as your chipset is i915 or newer (i8xx is expect

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 20:04 -0300, Evandro Giovanini wrote: > Also, the idea of a global menu bar is that it's much closer to your > mouse than when inside an application window, as per Fitt's Law. ??? They Fitt is/was a moron. ___ gnome-shell-list mai

My review / thoughts

2011-05-02 Thread Eric Springer
http://ericwspringer.blogspot.com/2011/05/gnome-shell-review.html ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Monday, 02 May, 2011 11:49 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I guess they do not want to listen as I recall. Well, I wouldn't say that.. I'm sure there at least in Fedora that the distros will be trying to get suspend working. Suspend has to work. It needs to be exactly like the Mac. My

Re: on suspend

2011-05-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
The thing is circular, because it works for you and not for me and you are okay with that implementation. The second point is computers actually needs "turn off" visibility for end users, not just "Suspend" if the system is capable. It happens that you work in an environment where you do not nee

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread John Stowers
> Also, the idea of a global menu bar is that it's much closer to your > mouse than when inside an application window, as per Fitt's Law. Oh I understand the theory, I just think it is *completely wrong* when applied to a workflow containing either/any of 1) A very large screen 2) Non-maximised

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread Evandro Giovanini
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:30 PM, John Stowers wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 14:04 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: >> I just downloaded unity/Ubuntu 11.04 and was playing with it. >> >> >> One feature I really like is the application menu is in the top bar. >> (ie: the File   Edit   View   Go   Boo

Google Chrome and proxies

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
Can someone with knowledge on how the proxies are set in Gnome 3 put a comment on this bug: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=80453 Thanks. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listi

Re: building gnome-tweak-tool

2011-05-02 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:52 -0500, Seth Galitzer wrote: > Greetings, > > I've successfully been able to build gnome3 libs and gnome-shell with > jhbuild on ubuntu 10.04 (lucid). However, I have been unable to build > gnome-tweak-tool on the same platform. Even if I pass in the path to my > loc

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 14:04 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > I just downloaded unity/Ubuntu 11.04 and was playing with it. > > > One feature I really like is the application menu is in the top bar. > (ie: the File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help) You mean the global menu? That horribl

Re: GNOME 3.0 feedback and suggestions (for 3.2+)

2011-05-02 Thread Frederik Hertzum
>>> >>> Horizontal desktops missing: >>> = >ctrl+alt+up/down to change workspaces (virt desktops) That key-combo (or any other for that matter) doesn't allow me to do what I want. I often need more than one set of apps open, whic

Re: issues under Ubuntu

2011-05-02 Thread Evandro Giovanini
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Koppányi Tamás wrote: > Hi! > I just installed gnome3 with the gnome-shell form the ppa available for > natty narwhal, but there are some minor issues with it. > > - First of all, the system doesn't remember screen brightness setting. Even > though i set it up in th

Re: Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread Evandro Giovanini
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 08:49, Adam Tauno Williams > wrote: >> >> I don't believe gnote is part of the official GNOME applications list. >> >> But anyway, Tomboy [which is an 'official' GNOME application] suffers >> from the same issue.  Us

Re: issues under Ubuntu

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas E Jenkins
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 16:35, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 15:17, Koppányi Tamás wrote: >> >> Can somebody please help me how to solve these issues? > > Please do not use GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.04. That is the only solution which > would be worth investing your time in. Perhaps

Re: issues under Ubuntu

2011-05-02 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 15:17, Koppányi Tamás wrote: > Can somebody please help me how to solve these issues? > Please do not use GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.04. That is the only solution which would be worth investing your time in. Perhaps the next release will have better GNOME 3 integration which doe

issues under Ubuntu

2011-05-02 Thread Koppányi Tamás
Hi! I just installed gnome3 with the gnome-shell form the ppa available for natty narwhal, but there are some minor issues with it. - First of all, the system doesn't remember screen brightness setting. Even though i set it up in the gui, and it seems to save it, but every time i login, the scree

Re: on suspend

2011-05-02 Thread Jesse Hutton
(resending to list) Suspend works great for me on my laptop. On my desktop, however, my graphics card (FireGL 5200) fan spins up to high speed on resume (as it does briefly while booting the system) and never slows down to normal speed. So, I have to reboot anyway to quiet the fan down. Only pre

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:10:58PM -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > Yes, it's on the roadmap. Application-level actions, like New Window, Open > File, Help, and Quit will be added to the menu that drops down from the > application icon. This will be enabled by a new API in GTK+, directly, so > that

building gnome-tweak-tool

2011-05-02 Thread Seth Galitzer
Greetings, I've successfully been able to build gnome3 libs and gnome-shell with jhbuild on ubuntu 10.04 (lucid). However, I have been unable to build gnome-tweak-tool on the same platform. Even if I pass in the path to my local build dir, it complains about not being able to find the pygobje

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 13:04, G. Michael Carter wrote: > One feature I really like is the application menu is in the top bar. (ie: > the File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help) > As implemented in Ayatana, it's broken and a usability regression. > Can we do that in the application thing ri

Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
I just downloaded unity/Ubuntu 11.04 and was playing with it. One feature I really like is the application menu is in the top bar. (ie: the File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help) Can we do that in the application thing right beside the Activities? or is this something planned already? ___

Re: Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 08:49, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > I don't believe gnote is part of the official GNOME applications list. > > But anyway, Tomboy [which is an 'official' GNOME application] suffers > from the same issue. Usability is reduced in GNOME3. > There is no such list. Both are goo

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
I apologize, I messed it up entirely. pm-is-supported --suspend && echo "Not supported" || echo "Supported" On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Bidossessi SODONON < bidossessi.sodo...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Actually that command gives "Not supported" on my laptop, which doesn't > stop me from suspend

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Bidossessi SODONON
Actually that command gives "Not supported" on my laptop, which doesn't stop me from suspending and resuming without hiccups. Curious. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list

on suspend

2011-05-02 Thread Bidossessi SODONON
IMO, the presence of "Suspend" should be only available to development builds(or optional in stable releases). I only once use "Suspend" in my system because it will mess the system and I will be forced to use the _reset_ button and I will never use it again as it may physically damage the Hard D

Re: Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread Koppányi Tamás
yes, this shifting of the icons on the notification bar is really distracting and annoying :( would be much better if the names/descriptions would just hover on top of the icons when you move the mouse over them. i'm also still not getting the hang of this notification bar. okay, they wanted to sep

Re: Suspend / Resume [Was: Feedback]

2011-05-02 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Whoops. I meant 'pm-is-supported', I was just being an idiot when I wrote the email. I'm also even more of an idiot and got the exit statuses reversed: pm-is-supported --suspend && echo "Not Supported" || echo "Supported" pm-utils is the package that has all this stuff: http://cgit.freedesktop.

Re: Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
I thought gnote was the official being listed on https://live.gnome.org/Gnote? It would be nice if we could somehow handle tray icons like this some other way. Virt-Manager, and Pidgin are also examples of this. They rely on you clicking and interfacing with the icon so the movement of these i

Re: Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread David Prieto
Both Gnote and Tomboy won't really need a notification icon once Zeitgeist is integrated into the Shell, because recent notes can then be reached via jumplist (right-clicking the Tomboy icon in the Dash or the Applications tab), even without opening the app. Note that I'm only saying it CAN be don

Re: Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 09:31 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > Last I looked Gnote was part of the gnome suite. Is there any plans > to make it more Gnome-Shell friendly? I've always used Gnote as a > quick way to write things down or keep references (like commands for > LVM, or things like that

Gnote

2011-05-02 Thread G. Michael Carter
Last I looked Gnote was part of the gnome suite. Is there any plans to make it more Gnome-Shell friendly? I've always used Gnote as a quick way to write things down or keep references (like commands for LVM, or things like that) In Gnome-Shell it's not as easy to access as it used to be. You

Suspend / Resume [Was: Feedback]

2011-05-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 23:40 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > I'm not suggesting the Terminal for everyday usage. I'm just trying to > get some hardware and pm-utils stats so we can solve the problem for > other users... all that command will do is print out "Supported" or > "Not Supported", just a