On 1/11/2021 05:46, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote:
Though I really like the idea of sharing the work between the
distributions.
The question would also be how to share it practically speaking.
Back when (2012) I was pretty active on the non-FSDG wiki page I asked
myself that same question and
Op Fri, 6 Apr 2018 08:51:26 -0400
schreef Donald Robertson :
> I'd like to also encourage people here on the list to help out with
> the Directory. A lot of the same issues we discuss here are relevant
> when looking to add things to the Directory as well.
I feel like there's an
Op Sat, 20 Jan 2018 20:38:09 -0500
schreef bill-auger :
> unless it can be shown that it was absolutely necessary to create
> pureos rather than re-vitalize gnewsense, then it's existence can
> only be seen as a publicity stunt to the detriment of gnewsense
>
Op Sat, 11 Jun 2016 16:15:25 +0200
schreef Zlatan Todoric :
> > If you type "man sources.list", you will find an example of a deb
> > line which includes Debian's contrib and non-free repositories.
>
> I see how this could be seen problematic, but it can escalate to
>
Op Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:03:49 -0400
schreef Richard Stallman :
> * Make free replacement repositories, and modify our versions
> of those packages to use the free ones. We would fill
> free replacement repositories with the free packages from
> the existing repositories.
This
Op Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:34:35 -0700
schreef Ali Abdul Ghani :
> There are 2 solutions came in my head
> 1- remove this Package Manager from this programming languages from
> free gnu/linux distributions
>
> in fact If we're removing those package managers, it's going to
Op Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:47:24 +0200
schreef m...@mtjm.eu (Michał Masłowski):
Hello. A user found a nonfree library source being bundled with
Ghostscript.
(snip)
Debian removes that library, so it should be already fixed in derived
distros.
Should we update the
Op Sat, 02 Aug 2014 10:33:33 +0200
schreef m...@mtjm.eu (Michał Masłowski):
* In libical-1.0.tar.xz in the directory
src/Net-ICal-Libical/netical_wrap.c it says Permission is
granted to distribute this file in any manner provided this notice
remains intact. There might be
other non-free
Op Sat, 14 Sep 2013 15:01:13 +0200
schreef l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès):
My understanding is that Debian-based distros provide the unmodified
upstream source, with a debian/patches tree containing patches they
apply. Do I get it right?
For gNewSense we do as follows. If the software
Op Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:39:51 +0200
schreef Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be:
- kde4libs: kate/syntax/data/lpc.xml; no license: javascript.xml,
nemerle.xml, verilog.xml, eiffel.xml, python.xml,
component-pascal.xml, literate-haskell.xml, sieve.xml,
sql-mysql.xml, pike.xml, sql
Op Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:39:51 +0200
schreef Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be:
- maradns: debian/resolvconf-script
- mpc: debian/examples/playstream
- rest2web: debian/*
Martin F. Krafft clarified his license notices regarding the AL to me:
You may assume that whenever I left out
Op Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:39:51 +0200
schreef Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be:
- deborphan: all (except util/orphaner.sh = GPL|Artistic)
Deborphan falls under the MIT license since version 1.7.29:
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/deborphan/trunk/debian/changelog?revision=827view=markup
Op Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:39:51 +0200
schreef Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be:
- txt2html: all, except debian/*
The README file says it's licensed the same as Perl, so GPL also
applies.
- xtv: all
This falls under GPL according to
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/X11/xutils/xtv.lsm
. It would be nice to see that also in the header of the
source code files and in the README. Putting a copy of both license
texts in the archive would round it off perfectly.
Kind regards,
Sam Geeraerts
Op Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:51:15 GMT
schreef k...@freefriends.org (Karl Berry):
Several files in extsizes are under the LPPL: extarticle.cls,
extreport.cls, size{14,17,20,8,9}.clo. Seems good enough to me
(speaking as the maintainer of TeX Live). Of course, if you (or
anyone) wants to contact
Op Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:39:51 +0200
schreef Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be:
- bubbros: bubbob/levels/*,bubbob/music/*,bubbob/sounds/* (also
bubbob/levels/*bin = binary only)
Levels, music and sounds are not a problem, because they fall under (a
reworded form of) the Clarified Artistic
://www.ijs.si/software/snprintf/
Kind regards,
Sam Geeraerts
Op Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:39:51 +0200
schreef Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be:
- texlive-base: debian/copyright lists some license problems
Investigated more closely. These are no problem:
- euler: LPPL according to source/latex/euler/legal.txt
- adrconv: LPPL according to
texmf-dist
Op Thu, 4 Apr 2013 22:45:12 GMT
schreef k...@freefriends.org (Karl Berry):
To my knowledge, it has always been the analysis that RFC's and
similar (C standards, POSIX standards, W3C standards, just about any
kind of official standard) are not ok for free distros. Because they
are information
I've been skimming through changes in the non-FSDG list [1] in recent
months. First of all a big thanks to Grant H. for filling in the blanks
and cleaning it up.
I have some comments to straighten out some details.
The Thunderbird entry got an additional problem: non-free search
plugins. It
Jason Self wrote:
In case anyone hadn't seen this.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/07/msg00016.html
Thanks for letting us know.
Aurelien Riviere wrote:
My post is about MultiSystem, a software that propose to make USB Multiboot.
Which distributions include it as a package?
Karl Goetz wrote:
I've not looked at LibreWRT myself, but I'd trust Jason to be doing due
diligence (to the extent that is possible).
He has been responsible for finding a lot of the issues currently
listed on our NONFSDG page :)
+ 1
Karl Goetz wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:51:11 +0100
Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be wrote:
The copyright file in the Debian package as this statement from the
author:
Thank you for your work on BEAV. I do intend to use the GNU
copyright in the future. You can put the current BEAV
Karl Goetz wrote:
BEAV Has A Non-Commercial Clause
https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?34591
- I've blacklisted this in gNS
The copyright file in the Debian package as this statement from the author:
Thank you for your work on BEAV. I do intend to use the GNU copyright
in the future.
Karl Goetz wrote:
Ian seems to disagree this is source, and i tend to agree with him [1].
Its not the preferred form of modification as its built from the git
repo and has all comments (and other?) stripped.
You're right.
I did a quick search in the samba 3.5.6 package, but couldn't find
Karl Goetz wrote:
bacula has a freedom problem
https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?34578
- could i get some input on this bug please? Does anyone else agree
with jasons interpretation of the licence? if its generally agreed to
be a problem i'll report a bug in debian. This appears to be the
Ward Vandewege wrote:
The idea is to compile a list of providers, identifying those where one can
run a free distribution and how easy it is to do so.
Is corehost.us not included because of false modisty or does it really
not qualify?
The explanation about booting with a floppy [1] recommends the Plop boot
manager, which is non-free. Excerpt from the License section on its
website: The programs are NOT free to use for commercial use..
[1] http://www.connochaetos.org/wiki/other_methods_of_installation
Henry Jensen wrote:
So, now you are saying that FSF and FSFE are have different positions
on this matter.
I think both FSF and FSFE are of the opinion that free software and
open source mean different (though not hugely different) things for
people who know what they're talking about, but
Henry Jensen wrote:
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 20:00:22 +0200
Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be wrote:
In any case, it's clear that using the term free software over open
source should be encouraged within FSDG distro communities. I think
it's not necessary to make an FSDG rule
Jason Self wrote:
Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be wrote ..
I think so. If you put Firefox with branding on a Trisquel CD then you
(or anyone else) can't sell that CD, as I understand it.
Not being able to charge money for unmodified binaries does seem to conflict
with that with what
the software license it ships under?
You mean the copyright license? AFAIK it doesn't, because they are
separate things.
* Do you know of any other trademark license that restricts
distribution or usability?
I only know of licenses that require renaming modified versions.
Sam Geeraerts
-browsers.dpatch by Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be
##
## DP: Remove non-free browsers from preferences.
@DPATCH@
diff -urNad liferea-1.4.14~/liferea.schemas liferea-1.4.14/liferea.schemas
--- liferea-1.4.14~/liferea.schemas 2007-07-23 19:56:59.0 +0200
+++ liferea-1.4.14/liferea.schemas
of non-FSDG software over
fully free alternatives.
Sam Geeraerts
gNewSense dev
P.S.: I'm not involved in the Trisquel community and I don't mean to
overstep my boundaries. I just think it's an interesting case to comment
on and clarify with regards to the free distro checklist.
Henry Jensen wrote:
Well, I don't know if I am good at marketing or if I suck. I get
constantly new users, some are blaming me for using linux-libre because
their hardware won't work. Some are requesting that I use the vanilla
kernel. I regularly respond to such posts, pointing them to
Henry Jensen wrote:
Hello,
If it occurs at the forum of a FSDG compliant distro that now and then
non-free software is mentioned, how do you handle this?
I think general forum good practices apply:
- Make sure you have clear rules about what is allowed, not just with
regards to software
Konqueror recommends non-free software (e.g. Flash, Realplayer) in it's
startup pages (Specifications). See
https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?33694 .
---
Sam Geeraerts
gNewSense dev
://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?33558
[5] https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?33559
[6] https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?33560
---
Sam Geeraerts
gNewSense dev
The package nyquist has the same problem as Audacity, because it uses
the same xlbfun.c file. Our bug report:
https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?33646
---
Sam Geeraerts
gNewSense dev
Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
Our script [1] for the Debian based gNewSense version may be of
interest. It comes down to creating a full mirror and then deleting
all blacklisted packages.
Would be very good to summarize all the existing solutions for scanning
non-free software, and then
Jaromil wrote:
hi Rubén,
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Rubén Rodríguez wrote:
would be nice to have a script that checks presence of packages, i'll
produce this as development progresses
Our script [1] for the Debian based gNewSense version may be of
interest. It comes down to creating a full mirror
Two more entries for the NONFSDG list, with thanks to Jason Self.
* Audacity: one file in the Nyquist plugin has a non-commercial clause [1].
* Free Abuse extensions: the Claudio add-ons don't allow distribution
and only non-commercial use [2].
I'll add them to the list if there are no
: Sam Geeraerts invalid.nore...@gnu.org
To: Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be, Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au
URL:
http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?33416
Summary: a2ps.pl has a non-commercial clause
Project: gNewSense GNU/Linux
Submitted by: samgee
Leo wrote:
I believe that ufoai is in contrib in Debian.
It didn't make it into Debian [1].
Arch wrongly marks ufoai-data as
GPL (in Parabola it's getting blacklisted right now).
If it could be included in the blacklist in Libre Planet that would be good.
Fine by me. I happily leave the
Rubén Rodríguez wrote:
I thought MAME was an old-timer in Debian non-free (making it at
least suspicious), but apparently it only just got added.
It just entered Ubuntu universe with maverick, replacing sdlmame (which
was in multiverse). Maybe they are relaxing their policies a bit more.
Rubén Rodríguez wrote:
The license for the MAME package restricts commercial distribution:
Redistributions may not be sold, nor may they be used in a commercial
product or activity.
I'm adding it to the blacklist.
I thought MAME was an old-timer in Debian non-free (making it at least
Daniel Olivera wrote:
Saludos a todos esta lista me canso.
Una mas
This list is meant for cooperation between distributions around the
world. I think the best way to make that work is to keep discussion in
English.
Nicolás Reynolds wrote:
It seems that poppler-data has changed license since 2009 [0]
I've checked the headers of all files on poppler-data[1] and they are
distributed under the modified BSD license as advertised by the
COPYING.adobe file.
Great news.
I think it can be removed from the
Nicolás Reynolds wrote:
Hi,
this package, nltk-data, got caught on our filters due to a license that says:
Parts of NTLK-Data are distributed under various licenses,
as documented in their respective README files.
See: /usr/share/nltk/data/corpora/ -- [0]
so we went checking those
Simon Josefsson wrote:
Jason Self jason-lrf9tu4k2ftk1umjsbk...@public.gmane.org writes:
[3] http://aws.bluehome.net/squeeze_kernel_diff.txt
The code below looks interesting. Should we report this as a Debian
kernel bug?
diff -r
Is anyone going to FOSDEM? There's going to be a distribution
miniconference and they're desperately looking for more talks [1].
I'm probably going, but I'm not really one for speaking. It would be
nice to see some free distros represented there.
[1]
Matt Lee wrote:
On 12/14/10 16:08, Sam Geeraerts wrote:
I see. That seems to mostly involve either hex editing or disassembling.
In any case, I haven't heard of ROMs with a free license.
Look into how Debian distributes games like Flight of the Amazon Queen
-- they're ScummVM games, being
Matt Lee wrote:
On 12/13/10 16:45, Sam Geeraerts wrote:
Some people consider game ROMs to be artwork, but they must contain some
logic too. They're unmodifiable and sourceless in any case, so I think
we shouldn't provide software who's only purpose is to run those ROMs.
Thoughts?
I don't
Graziano wrote:
I don't know if there are free software ROMs out there but I never heard
of them.
Apparently there are resources ([1], [2]) available to learn how to
write your own game. I don't know of any free ROMs either, though.
The point is I always heard rms talking about banning a
Christophe Jarry wrote:
There is also the Seeks project (P2P search engine):
http://www.seeks-project.info.
It seems to rely on user input instead of crawling. Are there enough
people out there who think hacking on search results is fun to get a
useful index? I fear not, but I'd be pleased
Joshua Ismael wrote:
Hi there.
Both thunderbird and firefox have branding issues
and recommend non free plugins, so free distros
can't provide them but have compile another package
based upon it.
For parabola we were providing icecat, but the delay
between firefox releases and icecat's causes
Nicolás Reynolds wrote:
El 11/11/10 08:37, Karl Goetz dijo:
Probably not the right place to ask, but if icecat has a sort of
linux-libre script we would be glad to use it.
GNUzilla website [1] has instructions to get the code (not the ful
source, but patches to Mozilla afaik) from Subversion.
Karl Goetz wrote:
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:39:01 +0200
jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:
hi Karl,
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:10:44 +0200 jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:
one solution i see is just provide a .patch for the upstream code
and leave distro developers and mantainers apply it every time
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
Nouveau is getting there.
I see that deblob-2.6.35 cleans nouveau_grctx.c. That file is not in
Linux 2.6.36, so it looks like we'll have a fully free Nvidia driver
shortly in an upstream release.
Sam Geeraerts wrote:
I also noticed that Thunderbird [2] and OpenOffice.org [3],[4], so I'll
add those if there are no objections.
Done.
Henry Jensen schreef:
Hello,
I just discovered free3d.org. I was wondering which of this
3D drivers is not really free (because of blobs in corresponding modules
in the Torvalds kernel or required proprietary firmware).
I know that nouveau is blob-free since 2.6.33 or so. What about
Grant Houlgate schreef:
I was surfing libreplanet and came across this
(http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines).
It says cracklib 2 has been GPL'd since 2005 and it is a dependency
for one of my favorite free programs (revelation
Alexandre Oliva schreef:
Let us know which designs you like best, keeping in mind that we're
aiming at a monochrome solid-color front-only design, to be printed in
black on light-colored T-shirts. Suggestions of colors are welcome.
My top 4:
1. hound2
2. hound4 (works without the logo
Matias A. Fonzo schreef:
I'm not convinced that putting the distro names on there is a good idea,
though. When I buy a T-shirt I like it to last me a couple of years. I
would feel a bit stupid walking around in a T-shirt listing distros that
don't exist anymore or not naming distros that should
Alexandre Oliva schreef:
On Jun 6, 2010, crap0101 marco.chieppa-c...@poste.it wrote:
I'm thinking about the result of draw '100% libre' (or most of it) only
using the distros' names and using an optional tin and discontinued
outline when needed
That was actually the first thing we tried. I
John Sullivan schreef:
Hi Sam,
Sam Geeraerts sam...@elmundolibre.be writes:
Hi,
The FSF has announced that they'll be making a list of free software
only extensions for OpenOffice.org [1]. This means that our version(s)
of it should point to that location by default (from Tools -
Extension
?
The FSF asks to email the Community Council. I'm going to do that today
and I'm going to include a request for a patch, but I doubt that we'll
get anything from that.
[1]
http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-launches-free-software-extension-listing-for-openoffice.org
Regards,
Sam Geeraerts
Rubén Rodríguez Pérez schreef:
Marcooliva just sent the message below to the Trisquel bugtracker.The ee
package uses the artistic license 1.0 so we removed it. It comes from
the Ubuntu hardy repositories.
I'll add it to the libreplanet wiki list.
I noticed on the upstream website that there's
Karl Goetz schreef:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:09:27 -0500
Brett Smith br...@fsf.org wrote:
Hi folks,
Who's planning on coming to LibrePlanet?
(http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page) Abdur-Rahman of BLAG
suggested a conference for free distributions, to talk about issues
of common concern and how
Karl Berry schreef:
Hi Karl,
be worked around it 'with a simple hello world'. I find it kinda silly,
The non-silliness comes in when you see how font knockoff sites operate:
they copy font x from somewhere and throw it into their production
process to sell it (under their own proprietary
Karl Goetz schreef:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:20:21 GMT
k...@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) wrote:
4. Neither this software nor any of its individual
components, in original or modified versions, may be sold by
itself.
As far as I know this does not automatically make the software
nonfree.
Karl Goetz schreef:
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/b/bsdiff/current/copyright
Lists the licence as 'bsd'. This may need a bug report.
It's a bit confusing. The package in Chromium is the Python version of
that: python-bsdiff.
A.J. Venter schreef:
* The Google Chrome EULA makes reference to various features that would
be odious to free software users: the browser automatically updates
itself without warning the user or allowing them to intervene. It also
automatically downloads a blacklist of extensions from Google;
Karl Goetz schreef:
together a new version of app-install-data for the various
distributions would probably be some nice low-hanging fruit
interested contributors could work on.
gNewSense removes app-install-data-commercial, but leaves
{gnome-}app-install in place (After disabling
Marco Oliva schreef:
The program libxprintapputil version 1.0.1 has, in my opinion, some critical
bugs:
1º - In the COPYING file there is no license.
2º - In the files libXprintAppUtil-1.0.1/src/xpapputil.c and
libXprintAppUtil-1.0.1/include/X11/XprintAppUtil/xpapputil.h are written:
A.J. Venter schreef:
So - has there been any work done to try and provide a trademark-safe
version of thunderbird that doesn't recomend non-free
extensions/themes ? Like we have firefox in IceCat and it's Ilk ? I
haven't found any (but it may just not have made the news as much
because frankly,
Paul O'Malley - gnu's not unix - schreef:
Rubén Rodríguez Pérez wrote:
El vie, 28-08-2009 a las 23:48 +0100, Marco Oliva escribió:
The argument that there's a strongly-implied right to modify is
unlikely to fly in many countries outside the US.
-
Every Day!
Kind regards,
Sam Geeraerts
Karl Goetz schreef:
== isdnutils ==
This source package contains multiple binaries, of
which isdnactivecards is one. Not sure if this is relevant - I can't
find a gNS bug about why it was removed to start with.
There is no original bug report, but it came up again in an issue with
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