Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-10-02 Thread Jaromil
old topic, still actual... On Sat, 26 Mar 2011, Karl Goetz wrote: > As there was a bit of a diversion , could we get an english summary > when you're done? :) this is the license text for the native_client code by google http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/native_client/trunk/src/native_client/COPYI

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-27 Thread Rubén Rodríguez
> > I assume you mean 'check to the distribution is correct and the > > problems are upstream', rather then 'ignore the analysis of all > > other distributions. Is my understanding correct? thanks, kk > > nope. sometimes distributions are wrong. Anybody can be wrong, that's why no analysis on

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-27 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, Karl Goetz wrote: > > I assume you mean 'check to the distribution is correct and the > problems are upstream', rather then 'ignore the analysis of all > other distributions. Is my understanding correct? thanks, kk nope. sometimes distributions are wrong. debian for instan

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-26 Thread Facundo Andrés Bianco
2011/3/26 Karl Goetz : > On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:20:15 +0100 > Jaromil wrote: > >> >> re all, > > hey, > >> now i'm sorry for what happened and in general i also recommend to >> base your analysis on the original source code distributor and not on >> the distributions. > > I assume you mean 'check

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-26 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:18:41 -0500 Quiliro Ordóñez wrote: > El 23/03/11 12:09, Daniel Olivera escribió: > > El 23/03/11 17:37, Nicolás Reynolds escribió: > > .. > > > >>> Yo me retiro. > >> > Daniel has left the list. The translation below: > > Goodbye everyone this list has got me tyred. > One

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-26 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:20:15 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > > re all, hey, > now i'm sorry for what happened and in general i also recommend to > base your analysis on the original source code distributor and not on > the distributions. I assume you mean 'check to the distribution is correct and the

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-26 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
now i'm sorry for what happened and in general i also recommend to base your analysis on the original source code distributor and not on the distributions. I agree. Nevertheless, Daniel is very sensible to any opinion. He tends to feel attacked by the least expression of disagreement. He is a

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-26 Thread Jaromil
re all, i can see two problems in how this discussion has evolved. one is language: use of "proper" english spelled in long and fairly complicated phrases to enforce a position that was answered (let's trust at the "upstream"); the other one is a deja vu from the Lame diatribe wether is free or

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-25 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 23/03/11 12:09, Daniel Olivera escribió: El 23/03/11 17:37, Nicolás Reynolds escribió: .. May I ask if you do that with every package, and if that is the reason for leaving blobs inside UTUTO's kernel? They say is GPL2 after all. Saludos a todos esta lista me canso. Una mas No se es me

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-25 Thread Karl Goetz
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:17:47 +0100 Daniel Olivera wrote: > El 23/03/11 17:04, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: > > > >>> Do you know where to find a chromium source tarball which is > >>> verified free software? > >> > >> Please try in "super secret" site at www.chromium.org > >> You can download alse

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-24 Thread Sam Geeraerts
Daniel Olivera wrote: Saludos a todos esta lista me canso. Una mas This list is meant for cooperation between distributions around the world. I think the best way to make that work is to keep discussion in English.

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-24 Thread Jason Self
Quiliro Ordóñez wrote .. > Nevertheless, it says "all rights reserved". Doesn't that mean that all > other right not specifically mentioned are reserved? Yes, but it's not due to that satement. With today's copyright law, "All Rights Reserved" is the default state of things -- automatically, just

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-24 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 23/03/11 17:44, Jason Self escribió: Quiliro Ordóñez wrote .. Does this mean you cannot have the freedom to modify this information file? It doesn't specifically say that, no... only that "you may recompile and redistribute." Nothing more. Nevertheless, it says "all rights reserved". Doesn

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Jason Self
Quiliro Ordóñez wrote .. > Does this mean you cannot have the freedom to modify this information > file? It doesn't specifically say that, no... only that "you may recompile and redistribute." Nothing more. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 23/03/11 12:09, Daniel Olivera escribió: El 23/03/11 17:37, Nicolás Reynolds escribió: .. May I ask if you do that with every package, and if that is the reason for leaving blobs inside UTUTO's kernel? They say is GPL2 after all. Saludos a todos esta lista me canso. Una mas No se es me

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Daniel Olivera
El 23/03/11 17:37, Nicolás Reynolds escribió: .. >>> May I ask if you do that with every package, and if that is the reason >>> for leaving blobs inside UTUTO's kernel? They say is GPL2 after all. >> >> Saludos a todos esta lista me canso. >> Una mas >> >> No se es mejor porque el otro sea peo

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 23/03/11 10:25, crap0101 escribió: Il giorno mer, 23/03/2011 alle 09.42 -0500, Quiliro Ordóñez ha scritto: Thank you very much people. I now have a clearer panorama. Can conclude (as of the info provided) that Debian and Ubuntu introduce a lot of files/licencing changes in Chromium that are

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Nicolás Reynolds
El 23/03/11 05:17, Daniel Olivera dijo: > El 23/03/11 17:04, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: > > > >>> Do you know where to find a chromium source tarball which is > >>> verified free software? > >> > >> Please try in "super secret" site at www.chromium.org > >> You can download alse an svn copy for dev

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 23/03/11 11:17, Daniel Olivera escribió: El 23/03/11 17:04, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: Do you know where to find a chromium source tarball which is verified free software? Please try in "super secret" site at www.chromium.org You can download alse an svn copy for developers at src.chromium.or

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 23/03/11 10:14, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: I now have a clearer panorama. How? With the info provided in this thread and the one in Ututo's list. Can conclude (as of the info provided) that Debian and Ubuntu introduce a lot of files/licencing changes in Chromium that are not on the source

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Daniel Olivera
El 23/03/11 17:04, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: > >>> Do you know where to find a chromium source tarball which is >>> verified free software? >> >> Please try in "super secret" site at www.chromium.org >> You can download alse an svn copy for developers at src.chromium.org > > So, either you verifi

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Rubén Rodríguez
> > Do you know where to find a chromium source tarball which is > > verified free software? > > Please try in "super secret" site at www.chromium.org > You can download alse an svn copy for developers at src.chromium.org So, either you verified that those sources are free software or you think

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread crap0101
Il giorno mer, 23/03/2011 alle 09.42 -0500, Quiliro Ordóñez ha scritto: > Thank you very much people. > > I now have a clearer panorama. Can conclude (as of the info provided) > that Debian and Ubuntu introduce a lot of files/licencing changes in > Chromium that are not on the source of Chromium

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Rubén Rodríguez
> I now have a clearer panorama. How? > Can conclude (as of the info > provided) that Debian and Ubuntu introduce a lot of files/licencing > changes in Chromium that are not on the source of Chromium? No, they don't. What they do is actually look into the files they distribute instead of assum

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
Thank you very much people. I now have a clearer panorama. Can conclude (as of the info provided) that Debian and Ubuntu introduce a lot of files/licencing changes in Chromium that are not on the source of Chromium?

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Daniel Olivera
El 23/03/11 13:23, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: > >>> It includes things marked as Copyright: UNKNOWN: License: *No >>> copyright* UNKNOWN >>> >> >> That is problem only for ubuntu or debian. > > I don't understand why, could you explain this? > I dont use more of my time for these. >>> The debia

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Rubén Rodríguez
> > It includes things marked as Copyright: UNKNOWN: License: *No > > copyright* UNKNOWN > > > > That is problem only for ubuntu or debian. I don't understand why, could you explain this? > > The debian one (they have it in stable/main) is about the same. > > > >> ¿Could someone specify which

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-23 Thread Karl Goetz
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:56:17 +0100 Daniel Olivera wrote: > El 23/03/11 03:36, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: > > The copyright file provided by google (the one linked at the LP > > blacklist) is ok, but the actual copyright file provided by Ubuntu > > is this humongous thing: > > http://changelogs.ub

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-22 Thread Daniel Olivera
El 23/03/11 03:36, Rubén Rodríguez escribió: > >> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Software_blacklist#chromium-browser says: >> >> (1) Copyright or license of some code is unclear >> (2) Links to proprietary plugins. > > The copyright file provided by google (the one linked at the LP > blacklist) is o

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-22 Thread Rubén Rodríguez
> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Software_blacklist#chromium-browser says: > > (1) Copyright or license of some code is unclear > (2) Links to proprietary plugins. The copyright file provided by google (the one linked at the LP blacklist) is ok, but the actual copyright file provided by Ubuntu is t

[GNU-linux-libre] chromium not free?

2011-03-22 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Software_blacklist#chromium-browser says: (1) Copyright or license of some code is unclear (2) Links to proprietary plugins. ¿Could someone specify which so it can be removed/replaced for Ututo?