Re: autotools automake autoconf

2006-12-27 Thread Ron Baker, Pluralitas!
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm looking at the simple examples and it is > talking about .m4 files. wtf. > > Well, yes, since auto* uses m4, it would be strange if the auto* > documentation wouldn't have anything about the very language th

Re: Strawmen and Urban Legends

2006-12-27 Thread dt
There is no such animal as "software patent"... There are patents for processes, or method patents, in various technical fields (business method patents are really a separate issue), and today many processes can be controlled by some type of microprocessor running some software code... (BTW, the v

Re: Strawmen and Urban Legends

2006-12-27 Thread robertplattbell
There are three Patent types, Design, Utility, and Plant. You are correct that there is no "software patent" per se. You cannot identify one by serial number or classification. There is no bright-line demarcation as to what is a hardware, software, or firmware patent. And since many systems (m

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread John Hasler
Alfred M. Szmidt writes: > I.e. you could modify the GPL into being a non-free license, and > still call it the GPL. I wrote: > That does not follow. Alfred M. Szmidt writes: > Yes, it does, if and only if you are permited to modify the GPL. But the > GPL is licensed under the following terms:

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
"Alfred M. Szmidt" wrote: > > A operating system can exist perfectly fine without a kernel, ... Only a GNU "operating system"? LOL. regards, alexander. "Join the boycott of Chinese products" -- www.stallman.org ___ gnu-misc-discuss

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
"Alfred M. Szmidt" wrote: > >> I.e. you could modify the GPL into being a non-free license, and >> still call it the GPL. > >That does not follow. > > Yes, it does, if and only if you are permited to modify the GPL. But > the GPL is licensed under the following terms: > > | Everyo

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
A operating system can exist perfectly fine without a kernel, it might not be usable, but it is still a operating system. The GNU system existed in this form for quite sometime. That you wish to invent non-standard definitions of the term "operating system" is quite silly. _

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> I.e. you could modify the GPL into being a non-free license, and > still call it the GPL. That does not follow. Yes, it does, if and only if you are permited to modify the GPL. But the GPL is licensed under the following terms: | Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread David Kastrup
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>I use Linux, not GNU, BSD, or other Unix-based operating >>systems, and want to release programs under the GPL. >> >> Linux is just a kernel, using it without any operating system is >> impossible. > >Nonsense. Embed

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread John Hasler
Alfred M. Szmidt writes: > I.e. you could modify the GPL into being a non-free license, and > still call it the GPL. That does not follow. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-di

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
>I use Linux, not GNU, BSD, or other Unix-based operating >systems, and want to release programs under the GPL. > > Linux is just a kernel, using it without any operating system is > impossible. Nonsense. Embedded applications work directly on top of a kernel. They requ

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread David Kastrup
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I use Linux, not GNU, BSD, or other Unix-based operating systems, >and want to release programs under the GPL. > > Linux is just a kernel, using it without any operating system is > impossible. Nonsense. Embedded applications work directly

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
John Hasler wrote: ... and forgot "IOANAL. Licensed under the GNU General Public License". Right, Uncle Hasler? http://www.groklaw.net/users.php?mode=profile&uid=3516 Go to doctor. regards, alexander. -- "Join the boycott of Chinese products" -- www.stallman.org _

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
"Alfred M. Szmidt" wrote: > >I use Linux, not GNU, BSD, or other Unix-based operating systems, >and want to release programs under the GPL. > > Linux is just a kernel, using it without any operating system is > impossible. Operating system without a kernel, GNUtian ams? http://www.ker

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread John Hasler
penguin writes: > It would be nice if modifications to the GPL were allowed, and comments > on the line about modifications being banned would be helpfull. While modifications to the text of the GPL are not allowed you can get exactly the same effect by putting them in a seperate file (you must ha

Re: GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
I use Linux, not GNU, BSD, or other Unix-based operating systems, and want to release programs under the GPL. Linux is just a kernel, using it without any operating system is impossible. GNU is one operating system that works with Linux, and there are some embedded versions too. Version

GPL version 3 comments

2006-12-27 Thread penguin
I use Linux, not GNU, BSD, or other Unix-based operating systems, and want to release programs under the GPL. Version 3 is being discussed now, at http://gplv3.fsf.org/comments/gplv3-draft-2.html. It would be nice if modifications to the GPL were allowed, and comments on the line about modificati

Re: Jurisdiction Penumbra

2006-12-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
rjack wrote: [...] > > The CAFC should be reversed. Maybe. Well, but taking ideas from Switzerland (-based international and non-political association of approximately 4,000 industrial property attorneys from over eighty countries (including the United States)) and Shell, either the SCOTUS sho

Re: autotools automake autoconf

2006-12-27 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
I'm looking at the simple examples and it is talking about .m4 files. wtf. Well, yes, since auto* uses m4, it would be strange if the auto* documentation wouldn't have anything about the very language that is used to write autoconf scripts. ___