Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
(headers fixed) Tim Tyler wrote: [...] If they were contracts, you would have to sign them ... You're misinformed, that is just one of many forms to manifest assent. Assent may be manifested by written or spoken words, or by conduct. See also http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:13269

Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread Tim Tyler
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Tim Tyler wrote: If they were contracts, you would have to sign them ... You're misinformed, that is just one of many forms to manifest assent. Assent may be manifested by written or spoken words, or by conduct. See also

Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Tim Tyler wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: Tim Tyler wrote: If they were contracts, you would have to sign them ... You're misinformed, that is just one of many forms to manifest assent. Assent may be manifested by written or spoken words, or by conduct. See also

Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread Tim Tyler
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Tim Tyler wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: Tim Tyler wrote: If they were contracts, you would have to sign them ... You're misinformed, that is just one of many forms to manifest assent. Assent may be manifested by written or spoken words, or by conduct. See also

Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Tim Tyler wrote: [...] The [L]GPL (both 2 and 3) purports to impose a whole bunch of covenants (conditions but not conditions precedent) upon licensees. No it doesn't. The term covenant occurrs once in: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt ...where it refers to patent licenses.

Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread John Hasler
Tim Tyler writes: Are there any precidents for free software authors being successfully sued over supposedly-implied warranties on their software? Unless you purchased the software from the author it's hard to see where such a claim would come from. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing

Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread Tim Tyler
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Which license are you talking about? The [L]GPL (both 2 and 3) purports to impose a whole bunch of covenants (conditions but not conditions precedent) upon licensees. See, for example http://www.actonline.org/library/GPLv3-Contract-or-Copyright.html Accordingly,

Re: Open source licenses are /actually/ contracts?!?

2007-08-27 Thread Tim Tyler
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Tim Tyler wrote: [...] The [L]GPL (both 2 and 3) purports to impose a whole bunch of covenants (conditions but not conditions precedent) upon licensees. No it doesn't. [...] Regardless of what server hosts the Corresponding Source, you remain obligated to

NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 29 August 2007 NYLUG and New York Greening of the Bits: Jim Gleason of NYLUG and IBM on the Green Data Center

2007-08-27 Thread secretary
Personal note from Jay Sulzberger: Jim Gleason is the founder of NYLUG, and he is one of the original team of advocates and coaches who, ten years ago, helped Big Blue out of the closet and into the light and sun of Free Software. This meeting is an important meeting, and, even if you have never

Re: gpl question

2007-08-27 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under the GPL am i allowed to modify an existing program that someone else made (the program is under the GPL) and sell that version? Yes, as long as you make the source code available (including your modifications) and