Re: Free system that could be "real Unix".

2007-10-16 Thread Christopher Browne
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when mike3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> would write: > On Oct 14, 8:06 pm, Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sockets is a fine architecture. Learn it. Use it. Live free and prosper. >> - > > Hmm

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread mike3
On Oct 16, 4:50 am, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many people do, but usually more in useful collections of software :) > and not so much about a particular tool (think distributions). > > Then, those that receive the money usually contribute back with more > software, more

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread mike3
On Oct 16, 11:12 am, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:17:52PM -0400, rjack wrote: > You lie about the GNU GPL. About law I don't know, but once you're a > liar, one never really trusts your word... Does that mean that if I were to be different from t

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread mike3
On Oct 16, 10:17 am, rjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No contract ever binds anyone unless you accept it -- that's a > tautology. > The GPL is not a contract, it is a grant of permission to do things that would otherwise be forbidden by copyright law. If your use falls outside of the scope of t

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread mike3
On Oct 15, 5:42 pm, rjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > Sorry, but Eben Moglen has been in courts about the GPL, and virtually > > all cases have been settled, with the infringing party agreeing to > > comply or desist. > > > Rui > > Eben first says: > > "If you s

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread mike3
On Oct 15, 10:10 am, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:20:20AM -0400, rjack wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > > >KomsBomb writes: > > >>2, The source code can't be used in commercial program. That's to say, > > >>the source code can't be used to make any

Re: Free system that could be "real Unix".

2007-10-16 Thread mike3
On Oct 14, 8:06 pm, Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After takin a swig o' Arrakan spice grog, mike3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> belched > out: > > Well the thing I was asking more about was making a system > > that would be "real Unix" in the sense that it would be *capable > > of passing

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
It's actually so factually wrong that it can only have been written by people who are agains Free Software, and want to spread disinformation. Some sentences just go way beyond reasonable ignorance and almost into criminal negligence (to say the least). Rui On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 07:33:05PM +01

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
I don't know who added that, but I will inquire and ask for a change. Rui On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 07:37:31PM +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:17:52PM -0400, rjack wrote: > > > No contract ever binds anyone unless you accept i

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:17:52PM -0400, rjack wrote: > > No contract ever binds anyone unless you accept it -- that's a > > tautology. > > Since licenses aren't contracts, ... And the sky is green in the GNU Republic. http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licen%C3%A

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:17:52PM -0400, rjack wrote: > No contract ever binds anyone unless you accept it -- that's a > tautology. Since licenses aren't contracts, there's nothing for you to see here. Even if it was considered a contract, and since not signed not valid, then effectively absolut

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread rjack
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 07:42:53PM -0400, rjack wrote: Eben then further states: “In the case of the GPL, no one is bound to anything in particular unless she redistributes the software, modified or unmodified.” This is *not* true. No one can be bound by the G

Re: RMS transcript for all the GNU fans

2007-10-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: [TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] et al., CC: g.m.d] > > Hi all, > > It is unfortunately too easy to make the mistake of feeding the robot > troll. :| Can you hear that, buddy rjack from insightbb division of troll brigade? :-) > > As everyone knows, Google has been quite

Re: RMS transcript for all the GNU fans

2007-10-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi all, It is unfortunately too easy to make the mistake of feeding the robot troll. :| As everyone knows, Google has been quite friendly towards Free Software, but that doesn't mean all it makes is Free Software, which could certainly be improved in the future (and I hope so). My phrase below m

Re: RMS transcript for all the GNU fans

2007-10-16 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:17:46PM +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > DiBona of Google (Open Source Programs Manager): > > > > "issue is that Richard wants the imagery that we ourselves do not own" > > > > http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:14528 >

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 03:20:35AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If some one compiles the monitor tool without any change and sells > it for money, I think it's a little bit unfair to me. > > However, if the license forces the user distributes the tool's source > code beside that tool, I think

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread KomsBomb
On Oct 16, 5:46 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's not important that it is Free Software, then go fetch legal > advice. This is a group about Free Software. I mean it's not important if it's redistributed as non-free software. > > If the license forces the user to

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:56:10AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This item is not very important. If it's not important that it is Free Software, then go fetch legal advice. This is a group about Free Software. > If the license forces the user to distribute the source code > with the program,

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread KomsBomb
On Oct 15, 10:24 pm, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > KomsBomb writes: > > 2, The source code can't be used in commercial program. That's to say, > > the source code can't be used to make any profit in both source code or > > binary form. > > Then it isn't Free Software and so you are off-

Re: Help to pick a license for my free source code project

2007-10-16 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 07:42:53PM -0400, rjack wrote: > Eben then further states: > > “In the case of the GPL, no one is bound to anything in > particular unless she redistributes the software, modified or > unmodified.” > > This is *not* true. No one can be bound by the GPL whether > distrib