Re: Freedom. . . NOT

In gnu.misc.discuss Rjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "So over the weekend I began to think about the GPL and my general > disdain for it. For a license that is touted as 'free', it certainly > doesn't feel that way. As a libertarian, I've often found myself baffled > by the leftist stance t

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David Kastrup wrote: Well, but then you are wearing your user hat with respect to the library, not your programmer hat... My use of the libraries consists of my writing programs that work correctly, so it's a meaningless distinction. ___ gnu-misc-disc

Re: Freedom. . . NOT

Hyman Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Alexander Terekhov wrote: >> Hyman Rosen wrote: >> [... The FSF doesn't care about programmers ... ] >> Right. >> http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/gpl/gpl.pdf >> (Why Not Use the GPL?) > > A programmer complaining that the FSF doesn't care about > programme

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Hyman Rosen wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov wrote: > > Hyman Rosen wrote: > > [... The FSF doesn't care about programmers ... ] > > Right. > > http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/gpl/gpl.pdf > > (Why Not Use the GPL?) > > A programmer complaining that the FSF doesn't care about > programmers. Ho hum.

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Alexander Terekhov wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: [... The FSF doesn't care about programmers ... ] Right. http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/gpl/gpl.pdf (Why Not Use the GPL?) A programmer complaining that the FSF doesn't care about programmers. Ho hum. As a programmer myself, I find that the biggest

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Hyman Rosen wrote: [... The FSF doesn't care about programmers ... ] Right. http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/gpl/gpl.pdf (Why Not Use the GPL?) -- The main benefit to society and the economy of such intellectual property notions as copyright and patents is the creation or encouragement of a

Re: Freedom. . . NOT

Rjack wrote: > > "So over the weekend I began to think about the GPL and my general > disdain for it. For a license that is touted as 'free', it certainly > doesn't feel that way. As a libertarian, I've often found myself baffled > by the leftist stance that freedom has to be enforced with overwh

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Alexander Terekhov wrote: The GPL is not a tool for freedom, it is a tool of control, and I argue that its overall effect on the art of software development as a whole has been more destructive than it has been beneficial. Even if that were true, that's fine - it is not the goal of the FSF to b

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David Kastrup wrote: [...] > The funny thing is that his proposed license is not a license (since it - The GPL is not a tool for freedom, it is a tool of control, and I argue that its overall effect on the art of software development as a whole has been more destructive than it has been benef

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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: [...] > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/ LOL! http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/linux/gpl-violations/index.html -- Wed, 13 Aug 2008 gpl-violations.org report in Financial Times Deutschland The German business newspaper Financial Times Deutschland h

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Alexander Terekhov wrote: Here's a bit more sensible judge Rui's judge was sitting on a case. Your judge is commenting from the peanut gallery. Guess which one carries more weight. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://list

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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: [...] > The lawyer representing Skype still continued to argue for a bit into > that direction, which resulted one of the judges making up an > interesting analogy of something like: "If a publisher wants to > publish > a book of an a

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On 2008-09-16, Rjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "So over the weekend I began to think about the GPL and my general > disdain for it. For a license that is touted as 'free', it certainly > doesn't feel that way. As a libertarian, I've often found myself baffled > by the leftist stance that fr

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Rjack wrote: "...For a license that is touted as 'free', it certainly doesn't feel that way..." http://www.tbradford.org/2008/09/kinder-gentler-free-software-license.html That is because the author misunderstands the purpose of the license. It is not about freedom for programmers. They are in f

Re: Freedom. . . NOT

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 09:31:54AM -0400, Hyman Rosen wrote: > Rjack wrote: >> "Forced" sharing through copyright misuse is illegal theft. > > > To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, > by securing for limited Times to Authors and

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Rjack wrote: "Forced" sharing through copyright misuse is illegal theft. To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and

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RonB wrote: Rjack wrote: "So over the weekend I began to think about the GPL and my general disdain for it. For a license that is touted as 'free', it certainly doesn't feel that way. As a libertarian, I've often found myself baffled by the leftist stance that freedom has to be enforced with ov

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RonB wrote: > Rjack wrote: > >> "So over the weekend I began to think about the GPL and my general >> disdain for it. For a license that is touted as 'free', it certainly >> doesn't feel that way. As a libertarian, I've often found myself baffled >> by the leftist stance that freedom has to be en