Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread David Warren
Thanks Ross & David C On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM David Cousens wrote: > Edit->Preferences->Accounts->Labels make sure "Use formal accounting > labels" is checked. > > On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 13:25 -0400, David Warren wrote: > > Chris's actual question was important to me. > > Does the code ac

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread David Cousens
Edit->Preferences->Accounts->Labels  make sure "Use formal accounting labels" is checked. On Wed, 2024-10-02 at 13:25 -0400, David Warren wrote: > Chris's actual question was important to me. > > Does the code actually do something different for different 'types' > of > assets/liabilities?  If so

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Ross Reedstrom
Yup! Edit -> Preferences -> Accounts -> Use formal accounting labels (Which I found by tracing the code from the table of debit strings upwards, and found a test against GNC_PREF_ACCOUNTING_LABELS) Ross On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 12:26 PM David Warren wrote: > Chris's actual question was importan

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Patrick James via gnucash-user
As the GnuCash help page suggests, not all assets are equal, in that there exists different levels of asset liquidity. One use of this is the presentation of assets on the balance sheet. The greater the liquidity of an asset, the closer to to top the asset is listed. Personally in GnuCash I ass

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread David Warren
Chris's actual question was important to me. Does the code actually do something different for different 'types' of assets/liabilities? If so, what? Given the answer, is there a way to turn off all of that Increase/Decrease stuff and have gnucash simply say Debit/Credit in all headings instead, f

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Ross Reedstrom
The question was not a theoretical one, it was a practical one. I agree, theoretically, you would expect GC to treat all AssetClass accounts the same. In fact, in object-oriented coding, it's best practice to have a parent class that you'd derive the child classes from, so that association is enfor

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Ross Reedstrom
Brook Milligan wrote: > Is it really the case that the _only_ impact of account type is to change > the headings in the GUI? > Wll, not completely. The actual question was "how does GnuCash treat accounts (like Cash, Bank, or Credit) differently than the base accounting type account (Asset

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread R Losey
Perhaps I'm being overly dense here... Cash, Bank Accounts, etc are sub-elements of Assets. So certainly, GnuCash treats assets the same - an asset is an asset. But once you divide assets up - in any way - you are treating them as different things... therefore, "Is 'Cash on Hand' an asset?" - Ye

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Brook Milligan via gnucash-user
Is it really the case that the _only_ impact of account type is to change the headings in the GUI? Cheers, Brook > On Oct 2, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) > wrote: > > Thanks for this, Ross. I asked a similar question in July, but your look > into the code gave a much better an

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-02 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
Thanks for this, Ross. I asked a similar question in July, but your look into the code gave a much better answer than I got. It would be very nice if this information can be added to section 2.8.2 of the Tutorial and Concepts manual. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com On 2024-10

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Ross Reedstrom
To give R their due, they did say: > I think GnuCash may use different labels for the columns (if you are not > using formal accounting terms of "debit" and "credit") > Which is a less than definitive answer, but is on the right track. Ross On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 6:41 PM Chris Miller via gnuca

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Chris Miller via gnucash-user
Hi R, >> >> Isn't that just a bit like stating that "your brother is a person, and >> >> your >> >> wife is a person, so what's the difference? They are all persons?" I would >> >> suggest that there is a difference . >> Yes. Exactly. What is it? -- not your biology ridicule, but the original >

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Ross Reedstrom
So, answering the question. Internally, GnuCash has an enumeration GnuAccountType, which that drop down is populated from. There are conditionals all over the code that switch based on the account type. One significant one for answering your question (Cash vs. Bank or any other Asset account, Credi

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 10/1/24 10:31, R Losey wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 12:23 PM Chris Miller via gnucash-user wrote: Hi Stephen and R, >> Isn't that just a bit like stating that "your brother is a person, and your >> wife is a person, so what's the difference? They are all persons?" I wo

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread R Losey
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 12:23 PM Chris Miller via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > Hi Stephen and R, > > >> Isn't that just a bit like stating that "your brother is a person, and > your > >> wife is a person, so what's the difference? They are all persons?" I > would > >> suggest t

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com On 2024-10-01 09:44, Chris Miller via gnucash-user wrote: > * How do "Cash", "Bank" and "Asset" accounts different from each other? > They are all assets ... > * How do "Liability" and "Credit Card" accounts different from each > oth

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Chris Miller via gnucash-user
Hi Stephen and R, >> Isn't that just a bit like stating that "your brother is a person, and your >> wife is a person, so what's the difference? They are all persons?" I would >> suggest that there is a difference . Yes. Exactly. What is it? -- not your biology ridicule, but the original question

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Patrick James via gnucash-user
> On 10/01/2024 9:44 AM PDT Chris Miller via gnucash-user > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > These are GnuCash questions; not accounting questions: > > > * How do "Cash", "Bank" and "Asset" accounts different from each other? > They are all assets ... > * How do "Liability" and "Credi

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread R Losey
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 12:12 PM Stephen M. Butler wrote: > On 10/1/24 10:04, R Losey wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 11:44 AM Chris Miller via gnucash-user < > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> These are GnuCash questions; not accounting questions: > >> > >> > >>

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 10/1/24 10:04, R Losey wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 11:44 AM Chris Miller via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: Hi Folks, These are GnuCash questions; not accounting questions: * How do "Cash", "Bank" and "Asset" accounts different from each other? They are all assets

Re: [GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread R Losey
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 11:44 AM Chris Miller via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > These are GnuCash questions; not accounting questions: > > > * How do "Cash", "Bank" and "Asset" accounts different from each > other? They are all assets ... > * How do "Liabil

[GNC] Cash Account

2024-10-01 Thread Chris Miller via gnucash-user
Hi Folks, These are GnuCash questions; not accounting questions: * How do "Cash", "Bank" and "Asset" accounts different from each other? They are all assets ... * How do "Liability" and "Credit Card" accounts different from each other? They are all liabilities ... Are these disti

Re: [GNC] Cash Account Question

2019-01-24 Thread Christian Kluge
Am 24.01.2019 um 01:32 schrieb Michael or Penny Novack: > On 1/23/2019 10:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Yep, I’m one of those. I track every expense, entered from *where* I >> spent the funds. So if the money was the green folding kind (or coin) >> out of my wallet or pocket, I have an account

Re: [GNC] Cash Account Question

2019-01-23 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 1/23/2019 10:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Yep, I’m one of those. I track every expense, entered from *where* I spent the funds. So if the money was the green folding kind (or coin) out of my wallet or pocket, I have an account for that. If I move money to/from my wallet, I track that too

Re: [GNC] Cash Account Question

2019-01-23 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yep, I’m one of those. I track every expense, entered from *where* I spent the funds. So if the money was the green folding kind (or coin) out of my wallet or pocket, I have an account for that. If I move money to/from my wallet, I track that too. And I routinely reconcile the amount. (no report

Re: [GNC] Cash Account Question

2019-01-23 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Lorrie, John's suggestion will work.  Assuming of course that you spent this cash, then you create transactions of some sort that move this cash to some expense account. John's technique will work, although it doesn't provide any information about how you have spent the money.  I try occasionall

Re: [GNC] Cash Account Question

2019-01-22 Thread John Ralls
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Lorrie Laskey wrote: > > Looking over my accounts, I see a Cash account with what looks like every > cash transaction I have ever made going back 4 years. Since I don't track > my cash, it is a negative balance and is skewing the balance of my overall > accounts.

[GNC] Cash Account Question

2019-01-22 Thread Lorrie Laskey
Looking over my accounts, I see a Cash account with what looks like every cash transaction I have ever made going back 4 years. Since I don't track my cash, it is a negative balance and is skewing the balance of my overall accounts. Do I need to track this and if not, how do I delete it without de