Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-02 Thread Jamestk
As a quick follow-up ran a couple of basic tests today to narrow down performance issue. Reconciled credit card account with roughly 40 or so monthly entries, hit finish button - waited, then save - at the same time loaded Outlook (with 3 accounts) and Chrome, may be a tad slower if at all - GNC c

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jamestk
>Diane Trefethen, your post made me smile. I followed a similar path using Quicken/DOS even to the extent of owning a HP LX200 (with back light). Then things took a turn, purchased a hugely expensive Windows CE machine when MS first launched regretting ever since the sale of my HP There was a f

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread David Cousens
Ken I am primarily just another user, previously with a couple very small businesses but currently just personal finance. Any contributions to the development and documentation by me so far have been pretty minor. The major credit goes to the current main developers John, Geert and Derek and all

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Dennis Powless
t; Ken > > > -Original Message- > From: gnucash-user On > Behalf Of David Cousens > Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 1:40 PM > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4 > > Diane, > > I think you have missed a few point

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Ken Pyzik
the whole GNUCash team for all you do! -- Ken -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of David Cousens Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 1:40 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4 Diane, I think you have missed a few points abo

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread David Cousens
Diane, I think you have missed a few points about GnuCash. GnuCash is not a commercial program maintained by a company to make a profit. It is a totally volunteer effort to produce and maintain and document GnuCash. GnuCash is free - you will not be charged for the bugs. As in most of the Linux

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Diane, The dev team has at various times acknowledged the current state of the app isn’t where they would like it. But you can’t just jump from A to Z. They have a roadmap to get there and it takes time and people that aren’t in infinite supply. Some ‘upgrades’ aren’t really up to them either.

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
That amount of memory you shouldn’t see any issues for sure. You may be on to something with the stocks if there are many. A fresh start would certainly confirm a performance bug or an issue with the data file. Regards, Adrien > On Feb 1, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Jamestk wrote: > > Adrien, answered

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Bucky Carr
I agree. Quit using Quicken 2 years ago and will never go back. Diane, what are you trying to do? I find my usage of GNUcash to be very basic and have not had any problems with it. On 2/1/2019 1:21 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote: Your mileage is different than mine.  I'm not seeing that many pr

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread johnny
hola On 2/1/19 2:56 PM, Diane Trefethen wrote: In short, GnuCash is about where Quicken was when Intuit dumped it. Buggy, unfriendly, and failing at trying to be all things to all users. I suggest that you Gnu folks do what Intuit did originally. Make a simple to use, bug-free personal bookke

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Your mileage is different than mine.  I'm not seeing that many problems for basic personal accounting.  And the folks here have been very helpful. On 2/1/19 11:56 AM, Diane Trefethen wrote: > I am trying to decide how to proceed with my accounting software. I > have been using Quicken since DOS v

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jamestk
Adrien, answered a few points above. The Python option looks good, and very worthwhile if I can overcome the saving aspect too - it will only increase as time goes on so may as well tackle it now. I think the best option is to archive existing accounts by exporting to csv, locking worksheet once

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Diane Trefethen
I am trying to decide how to proceed with my accounting software. I have been using Quicken since DOS v2. Back then, if you encountered a problem, you could go over to Intuit in Menlo Park and there’d always be an engineer happy to talk with you. They also had free phone advise for a few hours,

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler
The below sounds a lot like my wife's windows 10 EeePC with 4 GB main memory.  Everything creeps along including her email system. Occasionally the hardware decides to reserve 3.3 GB of RAM (something in the bios triggers it) and she ends up running in 700KB of RAM. I would look in the Memory Per

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jamestk
Agreed, it does seem odd, one other thought relates to am intense period of data entry associated with stocks. At the time this feature was under development needing quite a lot of 'scrubbing' of lots, I ended up with masses of entries which later became obsolete. I am always reluctant to delete

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Robert Kesterson
How is your system memory? GnuCash loads all the data in memory (even if you use the SQL backend) so it needs some room to breathe. I have easily ten years of data in my file (and I categorize and track everything at a level that few people would, so I have *lots* of splits), and I don’t exper

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread David Carlson
😃 On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:19 AM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > I agree on all points. I also think though that people who take the time > to ask for help are already amenable to maybe taking some ownership in > figuring it out or working things out for themselves,

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I agree on all points. I also think though that people who take the time to ask for help are already amenable to maybe taking some ownership in figuring it out or working things out for themselves, if at least after a little nudge, direction, or suggestion. I don’t make assumptions that people a

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread David Carlson
Adrien, Most users are in the Windows 10 universe or in the Apple universe using the 'standard' XML filetype on a computer that is less than 5 years old and they probably could not tell you how much RAM they have or whether they have a SSD, or whether it is normal for a file save to a network or c

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I’ll second that the SQlite backend improves speed considerably. I’ve been using it for a few years now. Concerning reports, if you go the Python route, that isn’t ‘out of the box’ necessarily, but you don’t have to completely figure it out from scratch. Do a search for PieCash. (might be spell

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jamestk
Saving as SQlite drops the file size down to 10mb from 15mb, unfortunately no noticeable difference with reports via GNC, I assume it needs Python configuring to access DB directly. Ideally it needs to be out of the box, otherwise likely to get in further in to something that long term may not be

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jamestk
Thanks Jeff, is there a tutorial or a few pointers how to achieve this, its an age since I used SQL. ..ta -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update yo

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jeff Abrahamson
You might try the sqlite backend, that at least avoids the heavier XML autosaves.  After making sure the needed sqlite3 libraries are installed, it's a simple save-as (and don't forget to specify in the now present dropdown menu what format you want). If you're willing to tinker in python some day

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jamestk
Thanks, there are other small issues creeping in which makes me think the program is becoming unstable. Example, when browsing the account tree menu the cursor hangs then jumps after a delay to where you are pointing, this only happens when there is a data file loaded. When reconciling an account

Re: [GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jeff Abrahamson
I've been doing reports with python scripts (not an officially supported technique, also requires the backend be sqlite, which is easy).  My reports run in a snap.  That said, maybe I have less data than you. Jeff Abrahamson http://p27.eu/jeff/ http://transport-nantes.com/ On 01/02/2019 09:07, Ja

[GNC] GNUCash becoming unusable ..v3.4

2019-02-01 Thread Jamestk
*First of all thank you to all of the contributors, devs who have volunteered to make GNUCash freely available. * That said, I do need to ask if any improvements are likely on the speed front. Basic reports take 1 - 2 minutes to run, larger ledger reports up to 15 minutes. I have tried all of t