Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-28 Thread Fross, Michael
Hello everyone, Just confirming the issue with Citibank QFX files. They are changing the FITID for the same transactions in the QFX downloads. I'll reach out to them, but I'm not optimistic The download on Friday yielded the following for a specific transaction: CREDIT 2020072112 54.00

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread David Carlson
Michael, Exactly. The QFX file only contains the information that the bank would put on your monthly account statement along with the necessary infrastructure to identify which bank created the file and which account and the time frame which the file describes and sometimes some additional inform

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Fross, Michael
Hello David, In looking at the QFX file, I only see one side of the transaction. This file has 3 distinct transactions ( records) that are not related and only one account ID is listed. Michael On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM David Carlson wrote: > There is another use case which GnuCash also

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread David Carlson
There is another use case which GnuCash also needs to handle. Some OFX files may contain both sides of an inter-account transfer between two accounts within the same bank because the OFX file can include multiple accounts. In fact, I do that on a regular basis at one of my banks. I do not test G

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread David Carlson
Fross, Michael, Are you trying to match bank payments to credit card accounts from QFX/OFX downloads from both sides? If so, the FITID's might accidentally match but the FID and/or BANKID and/or ACCTID of the bank/credit card transaction split line in the import file should be different from the

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Fross, Michael
Got it. Thanks. Now I understand why it used to work. And I certainly wouldn't expect GnuCash to correct a bank's horrible behavior. I'll keep an eye on the FITID and see if that's what they are doing. Thanks everyone for your help. Much appreciated. Michael On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:13 PM J

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Jean Laroche
Ah, OK I get it now! Yes, you should check that from one day to the next, the FTID returned by citibank remains the same (for the same transaction). If not, then that's going to be a problem. What has changed recently with GC is that it not will not match a new imported transaction with one fro

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread John Ralls
No. Section 3.2.3 of the OFX 1.6 spec: "An FI (or its Service Provider) assigns an to uniquely identify a financial transaction that can appear in an account statement. Its primary purpose is to allow a client to detect duplicate responses. Open Financial Exchange intends for use in statement

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Fross, Michael
Hi Christopher. Alas I do not keep the QFX files. I'll hang on to them for now and see if the FIDID does change. On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:20 PM Christopher Lam wrote: > As I understand the ofx spec*, the fitid should be an invariant for the > bank and account. By any chance do you have older

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Fross, Michael
Hi Jean. Let me try to better explain my issue. On most days, I download QFX files from my Checking and Credit Card accounts and import them. In this way I clear transactions and I can see what's going on. The next day I'll do so again, and the importer skips those that have already been matche

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Christopher Lam
As I understand the ofx spec*, the fitid should be an invariant for the bank and account. By any chance do you have older qfx files to compare? * https://www.ofx.net/downloads.html On Tue, 28 Jul 2020, 4:34 am Fross, Michael, wrote: > Thanks Jean / John for your thoughts. There is a register e

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Jean Laroche
There's a misunderstanding here. This is what GC does: - It looks at the OFX transaction, which always has an FITID. - IF GC sees this FITID in one of the register transactions, it skips the OFX transaction, because it's already been imported (when a transaction gets imported from the ofx, the o

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Fross, Michael
Thanks Jean / John for your thoughts. There is a register entry that matches, IMHO, very closely. I increased the Match Display Threshold from 1 to 3, and then to 6 (which appears to be the highest value allowed.) Every transaction from the import says "Match Missing." Digging around a bit, for

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Ah, forgot about the ID, thanks. Regards, Adrien On 7/27/20 12:31 PM, Jean Laroche wrote: No, >> - There's a matching transaction but it's already been matched to an >> imported transaction at some point so it's not available to be matched >> to the new imported one. This means, if you re-i

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Jean Laroche
No, >> - There's a matching transaction but it's already been matched to an >> imported transaction at some point so it's not available to be matched >> to the new imported one. This means, if you re-import the same file, the register transactions that were previously imported are marked as havi

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-27 Thread Adrien Monteleone
This appears to mean that if a subsequent import file contained a duplicate transaction for some reason, (or the user accidentally selected an already imported file) then duplicates would be imported. Or am I reading that wrong? Regards, Adrien On 7/26/20 4:56 PM, jean laroche wrote: - There

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-26 Thread jean laroche
To get a match you have to have a transaction in the register that's sufficiently similar to the one you're importing, and that has not been imported/matched before. In your case, it could be one of these reasons (I can't see the image): - There's no matching transaction in your register (no exi

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-26 Thread John Ralls
If there's no matching transaction already in the account then there's nothing to clear. In that case only adding or not makes sense. Regards, John Ralls > On Jul 26, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Fross, Michael wrote: > > Hello all, > > I sent this earlier this month and didn't see any reply so I thoug

Re: [GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-26 Thread Fross, Michael
Hello all, I sent this earlier this month and didn't see any reply so I thought I would try again. Has anyone else seen these issues? I use Citibank and perhaps it's a Citibank issue, but I did not have this problem on v2 or v3. Thanks all. I appreciate the help. Michael On Sat, Jul 4, 202

[GNC] Import Transaction Matcher issue in v4

2020-07-04 Thread Fross, Michael
Hello all, I typically download QFX files from my banks every day or two, import them to clear them in Gnucash. Worked great. However, ever since upgrading to v4, the importer seems to have trouble matching. Most of the imported transactions are listed in the importer as (A)dd, but when I selec