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On Wednesday 20 August 2014 at 7:04:23 AM, in
, Johan Wevers wrote:
> Now the
> question is, do the prisoners at Guantanomo Bay notice
> anything of it? Or will they still be tortured, have no
> access to lawyers and get still no fair trial an
On 19-08-2014 22:49, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> And do they get it or will the government just ignore the supreme
>> court?
> I could literally list *dozens* of cases where the Supreme Court told
> Congress and the President "no" on subjects where Congress and the
> President insisted they would
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On Tuesday 19 August 2014 at 11:48:29 PM, in
, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> Yes, it's pure semantics. It's *law*. What, were you
> expecting something else?
Fair comment, but what has been described as "bargaining" is still
coercion.
> The
> In my opinion that is pure semantics.
In other news, water is wet, bricks are heavy, and politicians lie.
Yes, it's pure semantics. It's *law*. What, were you expecting
something else? Wake up and realize the essential nature of what you're
talking about: law is *all about* formalism, syntax
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On Tuesday 19 August 2014 at 10:05:23 PM, in
, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> What the prosecutor is offering there is, "you will plead guilty to
> lesser charges, but I'm only willing to do this if you're willing to
> show me the full extent of y
Not coercion?
Nope. That's a trade.
Passphrase coercion is like so: "you will produce the passphrase, or you
will sit in jail until you decide to produce the passphrase, and we're
just fine if you sit in there the rest of your natural life, and once we
get the passphrase then we'll decide whet
On 19/08/14 22:27, Peter Lebbing wrote:
> I think that you should only build or fork software[1] when you're willing to
> provide the service of security fixes to your users, or clearly indicate this
> is
> out of your scope. Do they provide security support?
I'm starting to regret my from-the-si
Ville,
Thank you for your detailed response, it was very helpful. :)
I'm curious about one thing, and sorry if this is off-topic but since
we're discussing how to keep GnuPG up to date on Mac perhaps it is close
enough to on-topic.
I notice you suggested (home)brew as the source of the gpg2
And do they get it or will the government just ignore the supreme
court?
This is the last I will be contributing to this misbegotten thread.
The Supreme Court gets involved only rarely, but when they do, they
settle the argument with the finality of a nuclear strike.
Consider the Detainee Trea
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:43:49PM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> On 8/18/2014 9:32 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > There are quite a few ways police and prosecutors can coerce a
> > suspect to hand over his encryption key(s).
>
> Your examples which involve coercion are illegal, and the ones that
On 19/08/14 21:52, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> Ack. They use the build system from homebrew. They update recipes from
> time to time, but their releases normally go only with major Mac OS X
> updates (e.g. 10.8 -> 10.9), as in last october with 2.0.22. Their
> main target is the gpg-plugin for App
Am Di 19.08.2014, 14:49:37 schrieb Robert J. Hansen:
> > 2. They have a default skeleton gpg.conf with incompatible digest
> > algo etc. (as discussed many times on the list).
>
> Use of cert-digest-algo isn't really a problem unless you're needing
> people running old PGP or GnuPG to be able to v
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:41, do...@dougbarton.us said:
> I got to their site from the link on
> https://www.gnupg.org/download/index.html so I had assumed it was
> Ok. :-/
Me too. I do not have access to a Mac, thus I am not able to test the
stuff myself. After they fixed some license related th
I just went through the process of switching to brew provided gpg2. Anyone not
interested in the particular Mac workflow can skip this one.
So, removing GPG Suite, installed gnupg2 via brew, re-installing GPG Suite
without MacGPG2 (i.e. the Mail.app helpers etc.). There is a bit of work
involve
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On 19.08.14 20:17, Ville Määttä wrote:
> Yeah. Ok. Assuming the Mac guys / fork referred to here are
> GPGTools / MacGPG2 I can see a couple bigger issues there than just
> patching in support for bigger keys.
Ack. Nevertheless, I don't like some of
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Am 19.08.2014 um 21:16 schrieb MFPA:
> Hi
>
>
> On Monday 18 August 2014 at 8:21:06 PM, in
> , Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>
>
>
>> No, the Fourth Amendment protects all people within U.S. borders
>> equally. Americans get no special protections ove
On 8/19/14 11:17 AM, Ville Määttä wrote:
1. The package and gnupg2 version used has not been updated since October 2013
(2013.10.22). If I’m not completely mistaken the version is still 2.0.22.
Yes, that was my biggest concern as well (and you're correct on the
version).
Is there a better s
On 8/19/14 4:01 AM, Werner Koch wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:14, nicholas.c...@gmail.com said:
They've made a fork? I hadn't realised that. Why on earth?
I don't know. However they use a set of patches (e.g. allowing 8k keys)
and thus the Mac version diverts from the gnupg.org version. Act
Yeah. Ok. Assuming the Mac guys / fork referred to here are GPGTools / MacGPG2
I can see a couple bigger issues there than just patching in support for bigger
keys.
1. The package and gnupg2 version used has not been updated since October 2013
(2013.10.22). If I’m not completely mistaken the ve
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On Monday 18 August 2014 at 8:21:06 PM, in
, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> No, the Fourth Amendment protects all people within
> U.S. borders equally. Americans get no special
> protections over visitors to the country.
Do people at a border cr
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On Monday 18 August 2014 at 1:25:41 PM, in
, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> Basically, if the fact you know something would tend to
> implicate you in the commission of a crime, then you
> can't be compelled to reveal that you know it. Whether
> i
On 19-08-2014 4:43, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> real life. The DA is allowed to threaten prosecution of only those
> crimes the DA reasonably believes a person violated,
But that is a very vague criterium. "You liked Wikileaks on Facebook so
I'm going to sue you for terrorism and treason".
> Don'
On 19-08-2014 17:10, James Platt wrote:
> In a more recent event, the Supreme Court ruled that Guantanamo Bay
> is in the jurisdiction of the United States and, therefore, the
> detainees moved there gained the protection of The Constitution.
And do they get it or will the government just ignore
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On Monday 18 August 2014 at 7:11:57 PM, in
, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
> If you're a witness
> to a crime, you can be compelled to testify about what
> you see.
Yes, but they can't make you remember accurately what you saw, or tell
you what to
2. They have a default skeleton gpg.conf with incompatible digest
algo etc. (as discussed many times on the list).
Use of cert-digest-algo isn't really a problem unless you're needing
people running old PGP or GnuPG to be able to verify your signatures.
That's less of a problem than using digest
On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> At least for US persons, iirc the protection doesn't extend beyond
>> that?
>
> No, the Fourth Amendment protects all people within U.S. borders
> equally. Americans get no special protections over visitors to the country.
The Fourteenth
They've made a fork? I hadn't realised that. Why on earth?
They emphatically disagree with some of the key size limits.
To be blunt, it's made me lose a lot of faith in the developers. In the
grand scheme of things, it's hard to find *anything* less significant
than whether someone uses RSA-
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:53, k.chamb...@openmailbox.org said:
> following warning: "425 Error accepting connection; connection from
> invalid IP."
>
> My IP was: 46.4.46.66
Sorry, I can't find your IP in the logs. I can ping that address from
the server, traceroute shows not strangeness, and that
Hello,
i just wanted to download gnupg via ftp from
ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/gnupg/gnupg-1.4.18.tar.bz2 and got the
following warning: "425 Error accepting connection; connection from
invalid IP."
My IP was: 46.4.46.66
Kind regards,
Chambers
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:14, nicholas.c...@gmail.com said:
> They've made a fork? I hadn't realised that. Why on earth?
I don't know. However they use a set of patches (e.g. allowing 8k keys)
and thus the Mac version diverts from the gnupg.org version. Actually
Gpg4win does the same but I take ca
Quite. Who are the "Mac guys" and what did they fork?
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Ville
> On 19.8.2014, at 12.14, Nicholas Cole wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Richard Outerbridge
>> wrote:
>> Still waiting for my email address, yet my blackphone is already in
>> my hands. Keep up the good work.
>>
>>
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Richard Outerbridge wrote:
> Still waiting for my email address, yet my blackphone is already in
> my hands. Keep up the good work.
>
> I’m not going to bother with 2.1 until the Mac guyz come to their
> senses about not forking the crypto. Could be a long wait.
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