Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Binarus wrote: > Actually, I currently don't know anybody who I could ask to sign my > keys, and furthermore, the problem is bigger the other way around. Can I > trust the key which I found on the key server for the intended > recipient's email address? Can I at least be sure that the key server >

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
On 17.09.2019 17:21, Werner Koch wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:08, gnupg-users@gnupg.org said: > >> See also dkg's thoughts on the matter on the openpgp-wg mailing list, to >> align >> the specification with reality: > > OpenPGP has never defined what goes into the User ID except for the >

Re: Which version of GnuPG to use?

2019-09-17 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Brian Minton wrote: > On 9/17/19 12:59 PM, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > > Unfortunately I am no programmer but I was thinking about the following: > > I assume that in order to decrypt a message the secret key data must be > > unlocked and loaded for a very short time into the computers R

Re: Which version of GnuPG to use?

2019-09-17 Thread Brian Minton
On 9/17/19 12:59 PM, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > Unfortunately I am no programmer but I was thinking about the following: > I assume that in order to decrypt a message the secret key data must be > unlocked and loaded for a very short time into the computers RAM, in order > to perform the

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:35, look@my.amazin.horse said: > convention or otherwise. The spec is factually wrong and misleading for > implementors in this aspect, and should be updated to reflect reality. The specs are not wrong if you would read them: | the name and email address of the key holder

Re: Which version of GnuPG to use?

2019-09-17 Thread Damien Goutte-Gattat via Gnupg-users
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 06:59:34PM +0200, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: I assume that in order to decrypt a message the secret key data must be unlocked and loaded for a very short time into the computers RAM, in order to perform the decryption No. The secret key data remains on the smart

Re: Which version of GnuPG to use?

2019-09-17 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Damien Goutte-Gattat wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 06:59:34PM +0200, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > >I assume that in order to decrypt a message the secret key data must be > >unlocked and loaded for a very short time into the computers RAM, in order > >to perform the decryption > > No.

Smartcard operation

2019-09-17 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 17/09/2019 18:59, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > I assume that in order to decrypt a message the secret key data must be > unlocked and loaded for a very short time into the computers RAM, in order > to perform the decryption, or am I wrong with my assumption? OpenPGP messages encrypted

Re: Which version of GnuPG to use?

2019-09-17 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Werner Koch wrote: > On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 23:49, gnupg-users@gnupg.org said: > > > speak, with a specially crafted software, when using an online computer > > with a SmardCard? I have read that the secret key can not been copied from > > the card, but what about the 'bits and pieces' in memory whe

Re: Automatically delete old keys from servers

2019-09-17 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
The simple truth is: For the SKS servers, it is not technically possible to remove keys, and never will be. People have speculated, postulated, counterargued, rambled on several mailing lists about how great or terrible a thing that is. But no matter what anyone tells you or how many mails are w

Re: Automatically delete old keys from servers

2019-09-17 Thread Teemu Likonen via Gnupg-users
Daniel Bossert [2019-09-17T15:12:09+02] wrote: > On the key servers are many old keys lying around which aren't valid > anymore. > > Could you implement a function on the servers which delete keys after > let's say one year automatically,reminding the user via email one > month ahead to reupload t

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
> Thus the current wording is sufficient and has served us well over the last 25 > years If your statement here includes the "by convention contains an rfc2822 name-addr" part of the wording, please bring this opinion up on the openpgp-wg thread. The argument is being made (and I agree) that it

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:08, gnupg-users@gnupg.org said: > See also dkg's thoughts on the matter on the openpgp-wg mailing list, to align > the specification with reality: OpenPGP has never defined what goes into the User ID except for the encoding which should be UTF-8. Anything else does not bel

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 14:57, li...@binarus.de said: > to use only key IDs consisting solely of the actual mail address > hereafter (with or without the angle brackets - I can live with both That is actually what I suggest for quite some time. The extra stuff is not required and may lead only to co

Re: Automatically delete old keys from servers

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:12, daniel.boss...@dabo.ch said: > On the key servers are many old keys lying around which aren't valid anymore. Old keys are still useful to verify signatures. This is even true for expired keys. The user then needs to decide what to do with the verification result. Sh

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
On 17.09.2019 15:08, Vincent Breitmoser wrote: > >> but as far as I have understood my communication with Vincent, it's such IDs >> which are a problem for keys.openpgp.org. > > Right, that's because we currently use an actual rfc2822 parser on > keys.openpgp.org. This works fine for *most* us

Re: Automatically delete old keys from servers

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
On 17.09.2019 15:12, Daniel Bossert wrote: > Hi all > > On the key servers are many old keys lying around which aren't valid > anymore. > > Could you implement a function on the servers which delete keys after > let's say one year automatically,reminding the user via email one month > ahead to

Automatically delete old keys from servers

2019-09-17 Thread Daniel Bossert
Hi all On the key servers are many old keys lying around which aren't valid anymore. Could you implement a function on the servers which delete keys after let's say one year automatically,reminding the user via email one month ahead to reupload the keys? Me too have some old, useless keys ther

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
> but as far as I have understood my communication with Vincent, it's such IDs > which are a problem for keys.openpgp.org. Right, that's because we currently use an actual rfc2822 parser on keys.openpgp.org. This works fine for *most* users, but in the end causes more trouble than it's worth, so

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
At first, thank you very much for your explanations! On 17.09.2019 12:17, Werner Koch wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 09:12, li...@binarus.de said: > >> I am asking myself why Enigmail doesn't. I am not sure (and can't test >> at the moment) how GnuPG would behave if given a problematic name when >>

Re: Regenerate Openpgp Public Key from Private Key

2019-09-17 Thread halfdog
Werner Koch writes: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:09, m...@halfdog.net said: > >> Therefore some exports (or copies of old secring.gpg) just >> do no include the public key, otherwise import would be trivial. > > Nope. It is not possible to create an OpenPGP secret keyblok > without the public key part

Re: Regenerate Openpgp Public Key from Private Key

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:09, m...@halfdog.net said: > Therefore some exports (or copies of old secring.gpg) just do > no include the public key, otherwise import would be trivial. Nope. It is not possible to create an OpenPGP secret keyblok without the public key parts. > As the key causing me pr

Re: Regenerate Openpgp Public Key from Private Key

2019-09-17 Thread halfdog
Werner Koch writes: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:51, m...@halfdog.net said: > >> Regenerating private keys is mathematically trivial but tool-wise >> a little tricky. It seems that quite some people were troubled > > What's wrong with > > gpg --import backup-of-private-key.gpg > > the private key inclu

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 09:12, li...@binarus.de said: > I am asking myself why Enigmail doesn't. I am not sure (and can't test > at the moment) how GnuPG would behave if given a problematic name when > generating a key; I hope it would give a warning or would add the gpg generates such a key just fin

Re: Regenerate Openpgp Public Key from Private Key

2019-09-17 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:51, m...@halfdog.net said: > Regenerating private keys is mathematically trivial but tool-wise > a little tricky. It seems that quite some people were troubled What's wrong with gpg --import backup-of-private-key.gpg the private key include the entire public key. Sal

Regenerate Openpgp Public Key from Private Key

2019-09-17 Thread halfdog
Hello list, Regenerating private keys is mathematically trivial but tool-wise a little tricky. It seems that quite some people were troubled by this problem due to different reasons (I not attempted to confirm all of these): * Using (old) backups of keys for decrypting with only private key ava

Re: keys.openpgp.org not sending confirmation email

2019-09-17 Thread Binarus
On 16.09.2019 12:58, Claus Assmann wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, Binarus wrote: > >> Surname, Forename | Company > >> Commas are not allowed as part of email addresses. While I knew that, I > > unless quoted, e.g., > "Surname, Forename | Company" Thanks, Claus, for the clarification / correc