Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-05 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 5 Jun 2008, at 20:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following on David's email, It's been over a year since we last branched a stable release. Should we try to do another one soon? I guess so. I really wanted to get base much more compatible with the latest MacOS- X before doing another st

RE: Next stable release?

2008-06-05 Thread Nicola Pero
I'd also like to release a gnustep-make v2.0.6. There are some very useful fixes in trunk. I have a fix or two which I still wanted to add, but they could also go in 2.0.7. Thanks ___ Gnustep-dev mailing list Gnustep-dev@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.or

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Gürkan Sengün
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following on David's email, It's been over a year since we last branched a stable release. Should we try to do another one soon? I'm looking forward for a new stable release... ___ Gnustep-dev mailing list Gnustep-dev@gnu

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Fred Kiefer
Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 20:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following on David's email, It's been over a year since we last branched a stable release. Should we try to do another one soon? I guess so. I really wanted to get base much more compatible with the latest Ma

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Gregory John Casamento
I believe we should shoot for this, yes. So you think we should target the end of the month to make the release? Gregory Casamento -- Principal Consultant - OLC, Inc # GNUstep Chief Maintainer - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: gnustep-dev@gnu.org

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread David Chisnall
On 6 Jun 2008, at 09:05, Fred Kiefer wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 5 Jun 2008, at 20:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following on David's email, It's been over a year since we last branched a stable release. Should we try to do another one soon? I guess so. I really wanted to get b

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Andreas Höschler
Hi, There is one thing I should do before a new back release, that is test with cairo 1.6.4 to see how to avoid the black bars that have been reported. I hope to do this on the weekend, after that a release should be possible. Just one more question: Are we all confident that the big changes I

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Yavor Doganov
В Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:17:10 -0700, Gregory John Casamento написа: > So you think we should target the end of the month to make the release? It would be too late for Debian, I'm afraid. According to [1] all libraries will be frozen at the end of this month. Of course we could always ask the re

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Matt Rice
On 6/6/08, Fred Kiefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: >> >> On 5 Jun 2008, at 20:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Following on David's email, It's been over a year since we last >>> branched a stable release. Should we try to do another one soon? >> >> I guess so.

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Gregory John Casamento
: Fred Kiefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Richard Frith-Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; gnustep-dev@gnu.org Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 7:20:33 AM Subject: Re: Next stable release? On 6 Jun 2008, at 09:05, Fred Kiefer wrote: > Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: >> On 5 J

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Fred Kiefer
- Original Message From: David Chisnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fred Kiefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Richard Frith-Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; gnustep-dev@gnu.org Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 7:20:33 AM Subject: Re: Next stable release? On 6 Jun

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Fred Kiefer
Matt Rice wrote: I did notice an NSTableView bug though, and its reproducable afaict with any editable tableview if you edit a field after editing its row never set as needing display, you have to click a row to get things to redraw. Matt, I did not quite understand this description (Did you

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-06 Thread Riccardo
Hi, Can we officially deprecate the x11 back end in this release and recommend Cairo? The OpenBSD package, for example, uses the x11 back end and I don't think this gives people the best impression of GNUstep. I've been using Cairo since AlpenStep last year and after Fred fixed a few

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-07 Thread Adam Fedor
On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:05 AM, Fred Kiefer wrote: Just one more question: Are we all confident that the big changes I made to NSWindow and GSLayoutManager are now stable enough? They work perfectly for me, but that isn't a real test. Works fine for me, but I should probably update my Window

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-07 Thread Fred Kiefer
Fred Kiefer wrote: At the moment I am updating my second (virtual) Linux system to Ubuntu 8.04, this should include the latest cairo and with that I should be able to reproduce the cairo 1.6.4 issue. This would allow for a GNUstep stable release by the end of next week. Leaving some time to tes

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-07 Thread Riccardo
Hi, Can we officially deprecate the x11 back end in this release and recommend Cairo? The OpenBSD package, for example, uses the x11 back end and I don't think this gives people the best impression of GNUstep. I've been using Cairo since AlpenStep last year and after Fred fixed a few

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-07 Thread Adam Fedor
On Jun 7, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Fred Kiefer wrote: Fred Kiefer wrote: At the moment I am updating my second (virtual) Linux system to Ubuntu 8.04, this should include the latest cairo and with that I should be able to reproduce the cairo 1.6.4 issue. This would allow for a GNUstep stable rel

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-07 Thread Matt Rice
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Fred Kiefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Rice wrote: >> >> I did notice an NSTableView bug though, and its reproducable afaict >> with any editable tableview if you edit a field after editing its row >> never set as needing display, you have to click a row to g

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 7 Jun 2008, at 18:30, Adam Fedor wrote: On Jun 7, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Fred Kiefer wrote: Fred Kiefer wrote: At the moment I am updating my second (virtual) Linux system to Ubuntu 8.04, this should include the latest cairo and with that I should be able to reproduce the cairo 1.6.4 issu

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Jun 2008, at 12:08, David Ayers wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: For the base library, reverting the license to LGPLv2 should be easy, but I'd also like the next stable release to mark all non-macosx stuff as deprecated ... on the basis that this would warn developers about th

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-08 Thread David Ayers
Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: > For the base library, reverting the license to LGPLv2 should be easy, > but I'd also like the next stable release to mark all non-macosx stuff > as deprecated ... on the basis that this would warn developers about the > intention to be *highly* macosx compatible.

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Jun 2008, at 13:30, David Chisnall wrote: On 8 Jun 2008, at 10:30, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: For the base library, reverting the license to LGPLv2 should be easy, but I'd also like the next stable release to mark all non- macosx stuff as deprecated ... on the basis that this woul

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-08 Thread David Chisnall
On 8 Jun 2008, at 10:30, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: For the base library, reverting the license to LGPLv2 should be easy, but I'd also like the next stable release to mark all non- macosx stuff as deprecated ... on the basis that this would warn developers about the intention to be *hig

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-09 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 7 Jun 2008, at 18:30, Adam Fedor wrote: On Jun 7, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Fred Kiefer wrote: Fred Kiefer wrote: At the moment I am updating my second (virtual) Linux system to Ubuntu 8.04, this should include the latest cairo and with that I should be able to reproduce the cairo 1.6.4 issu

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-09 Thread Adam Fedor
On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:25 AM, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: When do you want to do the new base release? I think the timeline might be something like this ... monday-wednesday: last chance to deprecate anything we might be wanting to change in the next release cycle thursday: merge trunk in

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-10 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 10 Jun 2008, at 14:28, David Ayers wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: I believe that marking features that will be merely moved to - additions as deprecated is misleading. To me deprecation means prepare for removal... i.e. adapt all your code. If it just means "we are thinking

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-10 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:28, David Ayers wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: Where we have methods which are GNUstep specific, they ought to be in If you have a better idea of how to go about this sort of thing I'm very willing to listen (even time consuming alternatives if you want to vo

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-10 Thread David Ayers
Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: > Where we have methods which are GNUstep specific, they ought to be in > the additions library ... so assuming we get round to moving them, > anyone using them will need to change their software to include the > appropriate headers. A small change, but still one

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-10 Thread David Ayers
Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: > > On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:28, David Ayers wrote: > >> Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: >> >>> Where we have methods which are GNUstep specific, they ought to be in >>> If you have a better idea of how to go about this sort of thing I'm very >>> willing to listen (

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-10 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 10 Jun 2008, at 18:47, David Ayers wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: On 10 Jun 2008, at 15:28, David Ayers wrote: Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: Where we have methods which are GNUstep specific, they ought to be in If you have a better idea of how to go about this sort of thin

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-10 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:25, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: But without providing an alternative header to include. But in fact it seems that many of those declarations already exist in GSCategories.h. Sorry I should have checked earlier. [Yet there are some declarations that are not there.

Re: Next stable release?

2008-06-10 Thread David Ayers
Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: > > On 8 Jun 2008, at 12:08, David Ayers wrote: > >> Richard Frith-Macdonald schrieb: >> >>> For the base library, reverting the license to LGPLv2 should be easy, >>> but I'd also like the next stable release to mark all non-macosx stuff >>> as deprecated ... on t