Re: Is ESA first?

2000-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Thomas J. Walker wrote: >sh>Thomas, maybe it's just me, but I still can't determine from the >sh>above: Does or does not ESA allow author self-archiving (of their own >sh>final, accepted draft), without having to pay ESA anything extra? If it >sh>does, then this is a true, be

Published Rebuttal to Bloom (1999) and Relman (1999)

2000-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
This is a published rebuttal to: Bloom (1999) Editorial in Science and Relman (1999) Editorial in New England Journal of Medicine Harnad, S. (2000) E-Knowledge Computer Law & Security Report 16(2) 78-87. http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Papers/Harnad/harnad00.scinejm.htm

Information Exchange Groups (IEGs)

2000-03-13 Thread David Goodman
Two key objections to IEGs at the time were: 1. Their exclusive nature. They were available only to a small group of laboratories. 2. The extremely cumbersome method of distribution and inconvenient format of the material. (They were one-sided photocopies of typescript.) The current self-archiving

Re: Is ESA first?

2000-03-13 Thread Thomas J. Walker
At 02:58 PM 3/13/00 +, you wrote: >On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Thomas J. Walker wrote: > >> > >sh> The market can then decide whether authors think this is worth the >> > >sh> price -- as long as they are allowed the self-archiving option, hence >> > >sh> the choice... >> >> ESA requires authors to si

Re: Is ESA first?

2000-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Thomas J. Walker wrote: > > >sh> The market can then decide whether authors think this is worth the > > >sh> price -- as long as they are allowed the self-archiving option, hence > > >sh> the choice... > > ESA requires authors to sign a copyright release that has > no provisio

Re: Legal ways around copyright for one's own giveaway texts

2000-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Christopher D. Green wrote: > First, contrary to Stevan, I suspect that much of the third word will > indeed be left behind by the increasing computerization of the first > world. Although this may "drive demand" for electronics in the third > world (note, however, I suspect t

Re: Legal ways around copyright for one's own giveaway texts

2000-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Alan Story wrote: > 1. It may well be that "securing paper copies for teachers > and students is not the focus of this Forum." Fine. But if > those who have initiated this list and support the > self-archiving proposal ( and I think, as well, that it has > a number of merits..

Re: Is ESA first?

2000-03-13 Thread Alan Kahan
Tom, I believe there are a few scientific societies that already offere free online access on HighWire Press at Stanford. It looks like they are Journal of Clinical Investigation, BMJ (British Medical Journal), Clinical Medicine NetPrints, and Advances in Physiology Education. They all offer a fre

Re: Peer Review Reform Hypothesis-Testing

2000-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Andrew Kenneth Fletcher wrote: > I have a real problem with the current Peer Review System. It is biased > towards in-house publications and outsiders are ignored. > > I had an idea to set up a new newsgroup titled "Peer Review Sci" I am > certain that it would attract many pr

Re: Is ESA first?

2000-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Thomas J. Walker wrote: >sh> The market can then decide whether authors think this is worth the >sh> price -- as long as they are allowed the self-archiving option, hence >sh> the choice... > tjw> Free Web access as offered by ESA includes the right to self archive tjw> and

Re: Legal ways around copyright for one's own giveaway texts

2000-03-13 Thread Alan Story
This is a response to Stevan's message (below) as well as posts from Christopher Green (of York U.) and Marvin Margoshes. I concentrates primarily on some access and political and economic issues. 1. It may well be that "securing paper copies for teachers and students is not the focus of this Foru

Re: Legal ways around copyright for one's own giveaway texts

2000-03-13 Thread Christopher D. Green
Stevan Harnad wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Alan Story wrote: > > > 3. In this regard, C. Green statement that "soon we'll > > simply expect students" to have "hand-held devices that > > access the web remotely e.g. from the classroom" is > > interesting. I ask: who will pay for them? individuals?