Re: Publishing quote

2000-11-07 Thread Tim Brody
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Lynn C. Hattendorf Westney wrote: > Thought I would share these words of wisdom with this listserv. > > You can publish the Journal of Left Earlobe Anatomy, and you can say it's > free to the world, but if very few people come and look at it...then it > doesn't make any differe

Re: Self-Archiving and the reaction of publishers

2000-11-07 Thread Bernard Naylor
Yes; I think that this is publication. And I think that what happens when someone puts an article on an e-repository, whether refereed or not, is so similar to what you describe that it falls into the same category, if categories is what we are talking about. Bernard Naylor On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10

eprints and authentication

2000-11-07 Thread Rzepa, Henry
Can I seek information about a topic which might constitute a new thread? I have been concerned for a little while about how one goes about "authenticating" a document, lets say an eprint. Authenticating means, inter alia, two things a) Is the author authentic, and how can one check this b) Ha

Re: Self-Archiving and the reaction of publishers

2000-11-07 Thread Bernard Naylor
For the avoidance of any doubt (I hope!), let me make it clear. Writing something down on one piece of paper is not publishing it, in any sense. Stevan Harnad seems to be implying that because there is copyright in a statement, that means it is published. Not so. The concept of copyright can exist

Re: New York Times article on serials crisis and publisher mergers

2000-11-07 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Barry Markovitz wrote: > The New York Times today reported about the serials crisis in > scholarly libraries and the implications of Bertelsmann buying > Harcourt. There is certainly cause for concern that fewer and fewer > publishers... result in higher and higher prices. One

Re: Central vs. Distributed Archives

2000-11-07 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Greg Kuperberg wrote: > After all, Stevan, suppose that we told you that CogPrints would be better > off as part of the arXiv and you should surrender your collection and > your responsibilities. Would you immediately agree, or would you want > some time to think about it? I'

Re: Self-Archiving and the reaction of publishers

2000-11-07 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Bernard Naylor wrote: > We need to be clear that a communication with deliberately > limited circulation (category 1 as defined by Stevan > Harnad) is not published in any sense of the term. It is > emphatically not "published" in the legal sense - though it > is protected by

Re: Self-Archiving and the reaction of publishers

2000-11-07 Thread Bernard Naylor
I think it is necessary for me to make a further contribution to this discussion. We need to be clear that a communication with deliberately limited circulation (category 1 as defined by Stevan Harnad)is not published in any sense of the term. It is emphatically not "published" in the legal sense

Exponential growth

2000-11-07 Thread Greg Kuperberg
Exponential and linear are examples of mathematical terms whose lay connotations have strayed somewhat from their rigorous meanings. Many people say "exponentially" when they really mean "quickly", as in "journal prices are rising exponentially". If journal prices rose by 0.5% per year (for the sa

Re: Publishing quote

2000-11-07 Thread Dr. Stephen R. Heller
And not all articles in ACS journals are read by someone other than the author and his/her mother. Steve Heller On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Lynn C. Hattendorf Westney wrote: > Thought I would share these words of wisdom with this listserv. > > You can publish the Journal of Left Earlobe Anatomy, and y

Re: Self-Archiving and the reaction of publishers

2000-11-07 Thread Thomas Bacher
Actually, copyright exists in the same force for items not published as for items published. The only difference really exists in the sense that sales can be hurt for commercially published materials. However, if someone violates your copyright by publishing a work that you had written, since you o

Publishing quote

2000-11-07 Thread Lynn C. Hattendorf Westney
Thought I would share these words of wisdom with this listserv. You can publish the Journal of Left Earlobe Anatomy, and you can say it's free to the world, but if very few people come and look at it...then it doesn't make any difference. Robert D. Bovenschulte, ACS Publications, Division Director

Re: Central vs. Distributed Archives

2000-11-07 Thread Greg Kuperberg
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 03:15:36PM +, Stevan Harnad wrote: > So the answer is: Sure I'd have been happy to have CogPrints subsumed > by arXiv if that had proved to be the way to get the entire refereed > corpus online and free. But now it looks as if OAI-compliant > distributed Eprint Archiving