Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Alan Story
The ALPSP may call their deal a model licence...but instead it should be called a Model-T (as in circa 1930 Model-T Ford ) licence. Yes, the author gets the possibility of retaining copyright, but the publisher is assigned (at no cost to the publisher it should be underlined) ALL of the other

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Steve Hitchcock
Alan,For the benefit of authors who may have little knowledge of different rights but have probably heard of copyright, can you explain briefly what copyright is and why retaining it may be of little use to the author, as you suggest, in this example? Most authors will probably assume

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Alan Story
Steve: I am sorry;I am too pressed at this time...and in any event I do not need more any lectures from Stevan. ( see post below). The teaching issues/problems (in the UK) are explained in detail at: http://www.ukcle.ac.uk/copyright/ Alan Story Stevan: Sally Morris' note

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Thomas J. Walker
At 11:38 AM 6/22/2001 +0100, Stevan wrote: The American Physical Society version of this same basic arrangement is at ftp://aps.org/pub/jrnls/copy_trnsfr.asc : The author(s) shall have the following rights: The author(s) agree that all copies of the Article made under any of these

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Albert Henderson
on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 Alan Story a.c.st...@ukc.ac.uk wrote: The ALPSP may call their deal a model licence...but instead it should be called a Model-T (as in circa 1930 Model-T Ford ) licence. Yes, the author gets the possibility of retaining copyright, but the publisher is assigned (at no

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Thomas J. Walker wrote: sh [I might add only that the distinction between personal web home page sh and e-print servers is silly, incoherent, and hence untenable, but it sh makes no difference, if it makes some people happy to put it that way...] There is distinction

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, [Anonymous] wrote: I do not quite agree with you on the assertion that eprint services and personal web pages are the same; the former have the distinction of being maintained by some organisation which intends / commits to perpetuity and may add additional useful

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Alan Story
As soon as someone suggests you know it really is a crazy system under which commercial publishers acquire, at no cost, all intellectual property rights to the work of authors which is produced by the often-unpaid labour of academics (because they love their subject area) and by the money of

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Lee Giles
Standards are great and often make the difference between the success and failure of an endeavor. But in some cases other standards can be used and not put additional burdens on authors and users. It's possible to set up an open archive that's useful and not require authors any additional work

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-22 Thread Sally Morris
Perhaps it would be worth having a look at the ALPSP licence before dismissing it so readily - broad re-use rights, including educational use and electronic posting, are retained by the author (I actually think this is much more important than whose name appears on the copyright line) Sally

Hague Diplomatic Conference Ends, Badly for Now

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Somers
(Forwarded from Info-Policy-Notes List) Original Message List-Post: goal@eprints.org List-Post: goal@eprints.org Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:22:22 -0700 From: James Love l...@cptech.org As the Hague Conference Diplomatic Conference ends the Internet and