I totally support Jean-Claude's view.
Charles
Professor Charles Oppenheim
Head
Department of Information Science
Loughborough University
Loughborough
Leics LE11 3TU
Tel 01509-223065
Fax 01509 223053
e mail c.oppenh...@lboro.ac.uk
For what it's worth, so do I
Sally
Sally Morris
Consultant, Morris Associates (Publishing Consultancy)
South House, The Street
Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK
Tel: +44(0)1903 871286
Fax: +44(0)8701 202806
Email: sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
All of which leads to a very simple question... does this list
actually need moderation?
Unless you want to see the dozens of spams that appear in my
gmail box every day, you better keep this a moderated list.
This seems odd to me!?
I'm on several tens of mailing lists and this is the
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:37 AM, c.oppenh...@lboro.ac.uk
c.oppenh...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
I totally support Jean-Claude's view.
I can only repeat what I said before:
(1) I am happy to put an end to my 10-year moderatorship of the
American Scientist Open Access Forum and hand it over to someone
On 10/7/08, Andy Powell andy.pow...@eduserv.org.uk wrote:
I'm on several tens of mailing lists and this is the only one that is
manually moderated at the per-message level (as far as I know).
Unmoderated listservs post everything they receive, automatically. For
moderated listservs, the
I disagree with Stevan often. He can be infuriating. He has a tendency to
bloviate.
Nonetheless - he has been a FANTASTIC moderator of this list. I have sent
off many posts that have criticized Stevan directly, and he has never failed
to send them to the group. I can think of no other list that
I must admit that I have the same personal preference as Andy Powell
- I find the interpolated commentaries particularly off-putting. I
would prefer a straightforward exchange of views, with each
interlocutor exchanging posts in a more straightforward manner.
Yours,
Nick
Nick Evans
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Again, from a non-poster: this is an excellent list: well-moderated, useful
information, wonderful people who will respond offline if a person needs a
little extra discussion and does not want to belabor the list. Please stop
all this and get back to
On 10/7/08, adam hodgkin adam.hodg...@gmail.com wrote:
I also support Jean-Claude's view on this, and like Andy Powell, I find it
mildly disconcerting to see summaries and extensively interpolated
commentary. Could it be that this is more convenient for the author of the
reply than the
We could try having a different moderator, freeing Stevan to post, and to
respond to others' postings (preferably, as several respondents have
indicated, in a concise self-contained message, rather than interpolated
into the original or a summary thereof) without any ambiguity as to his
standing
I absolutely agree with Michael - the list would die without Stevan
Tony
-Original Message-
From: American Scientist Open Access Forum
[mailto:american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org] On Behalf
Of Michael Eisen
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:26 AM
To:
I also would like to second Michael's words and express my total confidence
and recognition of Stevan's integrity as a moderator of this list.
Ana
Ana Alice Baptista
http://www.dsi.uminho.pt/~analice
Em 2008/10/07, às 15:40, Tony Hey escreveu:
I absolutely agree with Michael - the list would
I think this discussion should not go on indefinitely here on the list!
There are two separate issues, that are being mixed and confused here.
1 - Stevan's position as moderator
2 - Stevan's style as poster
Regarding the first, I think one should ask himself if Stevan has done
something wrong
I agree with Alma, Tony, Mike, and others. This list depends on
Stevan's energy and dedication, and would be much less valuable
without them.
Peter Suber
At 11:08 AM 10/7/2008, you wrote:
I agree. Stevan should remain, doing his own inimitable
thing, which has been invaluable
I totaly agree with Eloy when he says :
1) this discussion should not go on indefinitely here on the list!
2) I agree with him and with a lot of other members that Stevan has done a
FANTASTIC work!
3) I agree that it is amazing to see how this discussion has started and
where it conducts us!
4) I
I agree. Stevan should remain, doing his own inimitable thing, which has been
invaluable for OA. He keeps things focused and provides an input that is
uniquely useful. Count me in on the 'aye' side, please.
Alma Swan
Key Perspectives Ltd
Truro, UK
--- On Tue, 7/10/08, Tony Hey
On 7-Oct-08, at 11:09 AM, Sally Morris (Morris Associates)
sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk wrote:
As you are aware, my vote is for a change of moderator
I am happy to tally the votes if you like
Thank you, Sally.
Those who wish to vote for or against my stepping down as AmSci
Moderator,
Events have overtaken the message I was about to send in the hope of
ending this damaging exchange. I planned to say the following:
'This exchange of messages is damaging to the List and to OA itself.
I would like to suggest that those unhappy with any aspect of its
operation
merely remove
Dear Stevan,
Just to say that you have my full support.
Maria Manuel
--
Maria Manuel Borges
Faculdade de Letras - Universidade de Coimbra
Largo da Porta Férrea
3004-530 Coimbra, Portugal
2008/10/7 Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com
On 7-Oct-08, at 11:09 AM, Sally Morris (Morris
Derek, Peter Suber and those with whom he agrees speak for me as well.
-Mike
Michael W. Carroll
Visiting Professor of Law
American University, Washington College of Law
4801 Massachusetts Ave., N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20016
(202) 274-4047 (voice)
(202) 730-4756 (fax)
mcarr...@wcl.american.edu
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I vote for Stevan. In my opinion, he should remain.
Suzana P M Mueller
Universidade de Brasilia
muel...@unb.br
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Dear Stevan:
I sent a message (to the list) suggesting that you should continue with the
good work you are doing and
This whole mess is amazing, and sad.
I vote for Stevan and I am looking forward to a return to normal on
this forum, even if normal is being criticized by some...
Professor Bernard Rentier
Rector
University of Liege
7, place du 20 Aout
4000 Liege, Belgium
Tel: +32-4-366 9700
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Dear Stevan:
I sent a message (to the list) suggesting that you should continue with the
good work you are doing and
Having been abroad during the time this controversy began I have had to scan
the dozens of messages about Stevan's monitoring of this listserv. I rarely
comment on open access but feel that Stevan Harnad has provided us all a
remarkable education. One day I am confident he will deservedly be
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Barbara Kirsop said:
'This exchange of messages is damaging to the List and
to OA itself. I would like to suggest that
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Dear Stevan,
I do sign up together with Heather and Arun, making mine their words.
Best wishes,
Sely
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'Stevan Harnad' har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk, Alma Swan
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ÿÿ Is there is a standard in the way of conducting and replying to
the messages in a forum?
I note in Jean-Claude'
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