Re: Mandating OA: Don't Let the Best Be the Enemy of the Good

2008-12-03 Thread Klaus Graf
2008/12/3 Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/2 Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com: As I have shown according German law it is not possible for all researchers to data-crunch digital documents. Until you

Re: Green Angels and OA Extremists

2008-12-03 Thread Leslie Carr
On 2 Dec 2008, at 15:47, Michael Eisen wrote: OF COURSE Elsevier can have objections to libraries assisting individuals in self-archiving their work, because Elsevier does not want self archiving to succeed! No-one wants to split unnecessary hairs, but there does seem

Re: Question re work on relationships between insitutional and disciplinary repositories.

2008-12-03 Thread Herbert GRUTTEMEIER
Les, the message below, from an Inserm colleague, is an answer to your question, some weeks ago, about connection between HAL and PMC. It also gives, at the end, an example of what isn't accepted, in terms of 'third- parties assistance' for self-archiving, by Elsevier. Herbert Gruttemeier The

Re: Green Angels and OA Extremists

2008-12-03 Thread C . J . Smith
On 02 December 2008 18:31 Jean-Claude Guédon wrote:   Commercial presses will do all they can to keep self-archiving at some artisanal, confusing level while lobbying like mad wherever they can (this means governmental agencies such as NIH and other similar agencies). The artisanal dimension I

Re: Green Angels and OA Extremists

2008-12-03 Thread Steve Hitchcock
At 15:47 02/12/2008, Michael Eisen wrote: Les Carr wrote: HAVING SAID THAT, the library is in no way adverse to finding mechanisms that assist individuals and ease their tasks, and I guess that Elsevier can have no objections to that either! How about a notification email to be sent

Re: Green Angels and OA Extremists

2008-12-03 Thread Jean-Claude Gu�don
[ The following text is in the utf-8 character set. ] [ Your display is set for the iso-8859-1 character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008 à 05:54 +, Leslie Carr a écrit : Discussion on the other side of the fence (the