Overlay Journals Over Again...

2009-06-26 Thread Stevan Harnad
The overlay journal notion is and always has been an inchoate, incoherent idea. Physicists thought that since they were happy just using the Arxiv version of preprints and postprints, the journals could be phased out, and the peer-review could be overlaid on Arxiv. But the journals are sustained

Interoperable Repositories Infrastructure Project - community review sought

2009-06-26 Thread Alma Swan
An international workshop in Amsterdam in March, funded by JISC, SURF and DRIVER, discussed work needed to improve interoperability between repositories. Four areas of work were focused upon: - citation services - interoperable identification systems - repository handshaking (interoperable deposit

Re: Overlay Journals Over Again...

2009-06-26 Thread Steve Hitchcock
On 26/06/2009 05:31, Stevan Harnad wrote: Nor is this mere semiology; for thinking in terms of overlay journals rather than just peer-reviewed online-only journals with distributed archiving and access-provision, we miss the fact that the only real substantive components are the fact that

Re: The Beginning of Institutional Repositories

2009-06-26 Thread Alma Swan
On 25/06/2009 11:42, Sally Morris sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk wrote: Isn't it the case that it's only in the case of articles published Open Access, and where the fee is paid by Wellcome, that there is any requirement on the publisher to do the depositing? Yes, though I understand that

Green/Gold Complementarity: A Functional Anatomy

2009-06-26 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Matthew Cockerill m...@biomedcentral.com wrote: Stevan,   You suggest that the announcement text: The Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR) now requires authors to publish research results into open access journals and also encourages dual submission

Fwd: News from ORBi, the institutional repository of the University of Liege

2009-06-26 Thread Stevan Harnad
-- Forwarded message -- From: Leslie Carr lac -- ecs.soton.ac.uk List-Post: goal@eprints.org List-Post: goal@eprints.org Date: Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:36 AM Subject: Re: News from ORBi, the institutional repository of the University of Liege To: JISC-REPOSITORIES -- jiscmail.ac.uk

Fwd: News from ORBi, the institutional repository of the University of Liege

2009-06-26 Thread Stevan Harnad
Begin forwarded message: From: Myriam Bastin Myriam.Bastin -- ulg.ac.be Date: June 26, 2009 4:13:36 AM EDT (CA) To: har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk, Leslie Carr lac -- ecs.soton.ac.uk, Tim Brody tdb2 -- ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: News from ORBi, the institutional repository of the University of Liege

Re: Funder Grant Conditions, Fundee/Institutional Compliance, and 3rd-Party Gobbledy-Gook

2009-06-26 Thread David Prosser
Hang on, deposit is not an `arbitrary hoop' that the publisher can jump through as and when they are bothered.  It is a condition of the contract between the Wellcome and the publisher.  If a publisher accepts Wellcome's money to make a paper Gold OA then one of the conditions of the contract

Re: Funder Grant Conditions, Fundee/Institutional Compliance, and 3rd-Party Gobbledy-Gook

2009-06-26 Thread Stevan Harnad
[ The following text is in the windows-1252 character set. ] [ Your display is set for the iso-8859-1 character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM, David Prosserdavid.pros...@bodley.ox.ac.uk wrote: Hang on, deposit is not an

Re: Funder Grant Conditions, Fundee/Institutional Compliance, and 3rd-Party Gobbledy-Gook

2009-06-26 Thread David Prosser
`and I repeat: it is an arbitrary and counterproductive hoop that the publisher is being paid to jump through, for no good reason whatsoever, and to no genuine advantage, just disadvantage'   And I repeat that if you have taken money to jump through an arbitrary hoop then you can, and should,

Re: Funder Grant Conditions, Fundee/Institutional Compliance, and 3rd-Party Gobbledy-Gook

2009-06-26 Thread Stevan Harnad
[ The following text is in the windows-1252 character set. ] [ Your display is set for the iso-8859-1 character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:21 PM, David Prosser david.pros...@bodley.ox.ac.uk wrote: SH: it is an