Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Hélène . Bosc
Bernard, Your worry about orphan works is not mine, because I think it doesn't prevent to reach OA. But in Germany, some researchers are concerned by it. May I suggest you to join the European Network for Copyright in support of Education and Science (ENCES) which is working on it. http://www.e

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Bernard Lang
* Jean-Claude Guédon , le 16-11-10, a écrit: > Bernard, > > The Green Road is not generally conceived of as "publishing" unless you > take the work "publishing" in a very general sense, such as "making > public". Stevan Harnad, in fact, has always carefully separated the > Green Road (self-archi

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Bernard Lang
Thank you Jean-Claude But when you speak of the green and gold road, and their form of publishing, does it imply that the accessible works come with these rights granted ... or is it only seen as a way to get there. I means that if those rights are given, does it matter much how the work is init

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Bernard Lang
Is there a distinction between papers that are just openly accessible, and papers that can be freely reproduced on other sites, or other media in your classifications. I am trying o identifi the concept of an open work. If it is simply something that I can access, that qualifies the whole of the

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Bernard, The Green Road is not generally conceived of as "publishing" unless you take the work "publishing" in a very general sense, such as "making public". Stevan Harnad, in fact, has always carefully separated the Green Road (self-archiving - not self-publishing) from both vanity presses and pu

Grasp What's Within Reach: Don't Over-Reach and Grasp Nothing

2010-11-16 Thread Stevan Harnad
Bernard Lang wrote: > Is there a distinction between papers that are just openly accessible, and > papers that can be freely reproduced on other sites, or other media in your > classifications. Yes, it's the distinction between "gratis" OA and "libre" OA: http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.p

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Bernard, I will simply quote the Bethesda statement on OA: 1. Definition of Open Access Publication An Open Access Publication[1] is one that meets the following two conditions: 1. The author(s) and copyright holder(s) grant(s) to all users a free, irrevocable, worldwide, perpetual right

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Chris Zielinski wrote: > His name is Wallace-Wells, everyone, not Wallace-Evans! Nobody seems to be > reading the original... No, the original is alas indeed being read, but the readers are so appalled by the author's endless substantive misreadings and non-readi