[GOAL] Re: Open Access Priorities: Peer Access and Public Access

2012-05-01 Thread David Prosser
Whenever I talk to university administrators, heads of school, individual researchers, or other library staff about Open Access I have to be strategic about it. I have to predict which of the many arguments in favour of Open Access will resonate most directly with the specific audience.

[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Stevan Harnad
I completely agree with my old comrade-at-arms Eric van de Velde (below) that one, short, simple, doable message is needed. BOAI 10, Enabling Open Scholarship and the SPARC OA Policy group are each working on providing such a message. (BOAI's will be released shortly by Peter Suber). The

[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Jan Velterop
I would simplify it further: Because Open Access (OA) maximises research usage, impact and progress, funders and institutions must require that all researchers provide OA to their published research results. Any form of dirigisme as to how this is to be achieved is best avoided. Avoiding

[GOAL] 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
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[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
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[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Steve Hitchcock
A perspective spanning 20 years on this topic that fails to mention repositories hardly begins to tackle the issues or the problems. If we go back 20 years to 1992 we had arXiv, a repository, but barely any e-journals (although most e-journals then were free). Some journals that followed were

[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
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[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
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[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Jan Velterop
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[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Eric F. Van de Velde
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[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Stevan Harnad
Let's be honest with ourselves, because OA will not come through fantasy or wishful thinking: It is undeniable that OA is desirable, beneficial, inspires a lot of enthusiasm (even in those who don't do a thing about it, which is most people, including most researchers) and is probably

[GOAL] Re: Open Access Priorities: Peer Access and Public Access

2012-05-01 Thread Vanessa Barrett
Stevan Harnad says The idea is to find reasons why those researchers should provide OA (80% of them are not doing it) and why their institutions and funders should mandate that they do it. Note the use of reason as a plural, not singular noun. There is no one reason to rule them all.

[GOAL] 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
from my blog: http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1058 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing By Michael Eisen | May 1, 2012 When Harvard University says it can not afford something,

[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Steve Hitchcock
I agree that universities should take control of their own scholarly content. Mike, Where does your article say this? How are you proposing they do this? Perhaps this was not an angle you wanted to cover in this article, but hard to ignore in a 20 year view. Repositories were not attempting

[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Eric F . Van de Velde
How about the following: Because Open Access (OA) maximises research usage, impact and progress, funders and institutions must require that all researchers provide OA to their published research results. Institutions and their libraries will phase out all electronic journal subscriptions by May

[GOAL] Re: 20 years of cowardice: the pathetic response of American universities to the crisis in scholarly publishing

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Eisen
I did mention it briefly, saying Their inaction also cost them the chance to reclaim the primary role they once held (through their university presses) in communicating the output of their scholars. But, look, not every thing anyone writes about scholarly publishing can touch on every aspect of

[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Jan Velterop
Eric, Why the second sentence? As long as they require OA, do we care how they spend – or waste – their money? (Except as tax payers, perhaps, but the access issue isn't the financial issue. Conflation of the two has stymied progress in my view. Just as dirigiste solutions have.) Jan On 1

[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Eric F . Van de Velde
Jan: I thought for a long time that conflating the two was wrong, but I have changed my view on that. On Michael Eisen's blog, two comments, one by John C and one by JJ, illustrate the point. Let's start with JJ, a grad student looking for a postdoc or assistant prof position, but it could also

[GOAL] Re: OA Ideology vs. OA Pragmatics

2012-05-01 Thread Stevan Harnad
Let's be honest with ourselves, because OA will not come through fantasy or wishful thinking: It is undeniable that OA is desirable, beneficial, inspires a lot of enthusiasm (even in those who don't do a thing about it, which is most people, including most researchers) and is probably