[GOAL] Squashing the brand? Re: Interview with the Scholarly Kitchen's Kent Anderson

2012-11-08 Thread Steve Hitchcock
Having feasted on Kent Anderson's anti-OA, anti-eLife and anti-PMC views, thanks to Richard Poynder's interview, the gold OA pack are now descending on Nature for having the temerity to charge a higher price for CC-BY OA than for, say, CC-BY-NC-ND

[GOAL] Re: Squashing the brand? Re: Interview with the Scholarly Kitchen's Kent Anderson

2012-11-08 Thread Ross Mounce
What's wrong with a high quality, peer-reviewed RCUK-funded article appearing in a 'faceless' journal with the word 'Open' in it? If the traditional publishers won't allow CC BY for a reasonable price then of course new 'faceless' entrants will offer more value for money gold OA venues of

[GOAL] Re: Squashing the brand? Re: Interview with the Scholarly Kitchen's Kent Anderson

2012-11-08 Thread Jan Velterop
Anything other than CC-BY (or CC-zero) cannot really be regarded as open access. Ajar, maybe, with the chain still on, for a peek, but strictly no touch. The idea of colours and flavours and pigeon-holing OA advocates in 'gold-OA packs' or 'green-OA' packs is best ignored. As regards Nature,

[GOAL] Re: Journal Titles Are Not Brands: They Are Earned Track Records For Peer-Review Quality Standards

2012-11-08 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Jan Velterop velte...@gmail.com wrote: Anything other than CC-BY (or CC-zero) cannot really be regarded as open access. Ajar, maybe, with the chain still on, for a peek, but strictly no touch. The idea of colours and flavours and pigeon-holing OA advocates in