[GOAL] Re: [SIGMETRICS] The Science Sting and Pre-Green Fee-Based Fool's Gold vs. Post-Green No-Fault Fair-Gold

2013-10-06 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Paul Colin de Gloucester colin_paul_glos...@acm.org wrote: *SH:* The natural way to charge for the service of peer review then will be on a no-fault basis, with the author's institution or funder paying for each round of refereeing, *regardless of outcome

[GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits

2013-10-06 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
And the result of this effective market is that wealth will become an important factor in the determination of scientific prestige. In fact, this coupling of prestige and financing is exactly what the Grand Conversation of science should never accept or accommodate. If, moreover, you measure

[GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits

2013-10-06 Thread Arthur Sale
Very true, Jean-Claude. It is the sole value of the subscription publishing industry is that it does not cost the author or his/her institution anything. Cost burdens are pushed on those who can pay (but have second-order interest in paying). Institutional presses and professional societies

[GOAL] Re: Fool's Gold vs. Fair Gold

2013-10-06 Thread Graham Triggs
On 5 October 2013 23:31, Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Graham Triggs grahamtri...@gmail.comwrote: In an author-pays model, the author is paying in part for the peer-review, editing, production, distribution - which are all replicable and