Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Couture Marc
Heather wrote : "An author wishing to pre-authorize translations but only under particular conditions [...] should [...] grant additional permissions [...] with a CC+ license." First, note that CC+ it's not a CC license, but a CC protocol (or tool). The distinction is important because what's

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
The statement: "Copyright is only invoked if you want to actually copy an original table for inclusion in a publication" is completely wrong. The question of whether it is legal to point to another work depends on the jurisdiction. It is Ancillary Copyright see

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Heather Morrison
hi Peter, On 2017-01-24, at 10:10 AM, Peter Murray-Rust > wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Heather Morrison > wrote: Another critique that may be more relevant to this argument: I

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Heather Morrison < heather.morri...@uottawa.ca> wrote: > Another critique that may be more relevant to this argument: I challenge > PMR's contention that it is necessary to limit this kind of research to > works that are licensed CC-BY. If you gather data from a

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Heather Morrison
Another critique that may be more relevant to this argument: I challenge PMR's contention that it is necessary to limit this kind of research to works that are licensed CC-BY. If you gather data from a great many different tables and analyze it, what you will be publishing is your own work.

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Heather Morrison
hi Fiona, It seems we have been thinking along the same lines - I have a similar proposal that tries to address the same issue. An author wishing to pre-authorize translations but only under particular conditions, e.g. that the translation is done by an appropriately qualified translator and

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Fiona Bradley
Hi Heather, I think there’s too much variation in copyright arrangements and agreements for me to comment on that but indeed should authors prefer and there’s no other arrangements in place stating otherwise you could put authors in place of institution/publisher in my comment. I think

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Heather Morrison < heather.morri...@uottawa.ca> wrote: > hi Peter, > > If many knowledge projects are advancing our knowledge through the means > that you have described, surely there are others than the one you started > yesterday? Can you provide a list or

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Heather Morrison
hi Peter, If many knowledge projects are advancing our knowledge through the means that you have described, surely there are others than the one you started yesterday? Can you provide a list or literature review of such studies? My OA APC study uses data from different sources that do not have

Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet the definition of open access?

2017-01-24 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
There are many activities where CC BY or a more liberal licence (CC 0) is the only way that modern science can be done. Many knowledge-based projects in science , technology, medicine, use thousands of documents a day to extract and publish science. (We started one yesterday at

Re: [GOAL] Elsevier as an open access publisher

2017-01-24 Thread Dirk Pieper
Hi, reading the discussion about Elsevier as an "OA publisher" and the discussion about CC-BY as an "requirement" for OA we analysed the Elsevier metadata in Crossref. Harvesting the data some days ago the most frequently used license information were: 675,343 :