[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-15 Thread Arthur Sale
Stevan   There is no need to exaggerate.   Clearly from the point of view of a reader, the Accepted Manuscript (NISO terminology) is better than no article at all. Equally clearly, the Version of Record (again NISO terminology) is better still.  From the point of view of providing access th

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-15 Thread Andrew A . Adams
In response to Stevan Harnad, Arthur Sale wrote: > When we turn to the researcher, the situation changes significantly, > if slightly. Researchers regard the VoR as the canonic version of > their article, almost exclusively (I exempt you and me and a small set > of similar-minded people). As far a

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Arthur Sale wrote: Stevan   There is no need to exaggerate.   Clearly from the point of view of a reader, the Accepted Manuscript (NISO terminology) is better than no article at all. Equally clearly, the Version o

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-16 Thread Arthur Sale
(Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record In response to Stevan Harnad, Arthur Sale wrote: > When we turn to the researcher, the situation changes significantly, > if slightly. Researchers regard the V

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-17 Thread Arthur Sale
un...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Andrew A. Adams Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 12:16 PM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record > Anthony A

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-17 Thread Andrew A . Adams
> Andrew > > Sorry for the mistake about your name and thank you for the tolerance. No problem. I've been called worse, and not in deliberate insult, either. I think the worst was being introduced to someone as Adam Adamson. The perils of a surname that is almost a first name. I'm not immune to

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-15 Thread Arthur Sale
Stevan There is no need to exaggerate. Clearly from the point of view of a reader, the Accepted Manuscript (NISO terminology) is better than no article at all. Equally clearly, the Version of Record (again NISO terminology) is better still. From the point of view of providing access then,

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-15 Thread Andrew A. Adams
In response to Stevan Harnad, Arthur Sale wrote: > When we turn to the researcher, the situation changes significantly, > if slightly. Researchers regard the VoR as the canonic version of > their article, almost exclusively (I exempt you and me and a small set > of similar-minded people). As far a

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-15 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Arthur Sale wrote: > Stevan > > ** ** > > There is no need to exaggerate. > > ** ** > > Clearly from the point of view of a reader, the *Accepted Manuscript*(NISO > terminology) is better than no article at all. Equally clearly, the > *Version of Record

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-16 Thread Arthur Sale
(Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record In response to Stevan Harnad, Arthur Sale wrote: > When we turn to the researcher, the situation changes significantly, > if slightly. Researchers regard the V

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-17 Thread Andrew A. Adams
> Anthony Andrew, actually. But, absolutely no offense taken :-). > Point 1 - absolutely true. Only a small minority of downloads lead to > citations. Have a look at the download data of eprints.utas.edu.au. However > I cannot resist writing that citations are not the same as impact. Only in > ac

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-17 Thread Arthur Sale
es at eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Andrew A. Adams Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 12:16 PM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record > Anthony A

[GOAL] Re: Author's refereed, revised, accepted final draft vs. publisher's version-of-record

2012-02-17 Thread Andrew A. Adams
> Andrew > > Sorry for the mistake about your name and thank you for the tolerance. No problem. I've been called worse, and not in deliberate insult, either. I think the worst was being introduced to someone as Adam Adamson. The perils of a surname that is almost a first name. I'm not immune to