[GOAL] Re: RCUK EC Did Not Follow Finch/Willets

2012-07-31 Thread Stevan Harnad
P.S. Ari Belenkey, why are you posting this on the Finch/Willets thread? You are not posting about Finch Willets: You are airing 10-year old arguments against OA! You should be applauding Finch/Willets, since, if heeded, they will have set OA back by yet another decade... On 2012-07-31, at 1:02

[GOAL] Re: RCUK EC Did Not Follow Finch/Willets

2012-07-31 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 2012-07-30, Ari Belenkiy wrote in LIBLICENSE: Stevan Harnad, I failed to hear this time the key word taxpayer that permeated your earlier writings. Here's the word: Research is funded by the *tax-payer* so that it can be used, applied and built upon, toward progress in further

[GOAL] Re: RCUK EC Did Not Follow Finch/Willets

2012-07-31 Thread brentier
I wouldn't want to let Stevan look like he stands alone here. I am terrified by such statements as those made here by Mr. Belenkiy (whom, by the way, I do not know). These statements are not only peremptory, but they take us back 15 years in the dark ages of the nascent OA era. I admire

[GOAL] Re: RCUK EC Did Not Follow Finch/Willets

2012-07-22 Thread Stevan Harnad
I am flattered that Dr. Watkinson feels I had special influence on Ian Gibson and his Select Committee. I wish I had had. But alas the truth is as I have already written: I was not one of the 23 witnesses invited to give oral evidence (several publishers were). Ian's parliamentary assistant Sarah

[GOAL] Re: RCUK EC Did Not Follow Finch/Willets, They Rejected It, Promptly and Prominently!

2012-07-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Kiley, Robert [Wellcome Trust] wrote: My reading of the RCUK policy is somewhat different to Stevan’s. In short, I see clear parallels between what Finch recommended (disclosure – I sat on the Finch Working Group) and the RCUK policy. **· **Finch

[GOAL] Re: RCUK EC Did Not Follow Finch/Willets, They Rejected It, Promptly and Prominently!

2012-07-18 Thread Kiley, Robert
My reading of the RCUK policy is somewhat different to Stevan's. In short, I see clear parallels between what Finch recommended (disclosure - I sat on the Finch Working Group) and the RCUK policy. Specifically: · Finch recommended gold OA and flexible funding arrangements to cover