No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-08 Thread Peter Suber
ent in the next issue of FOSN. If you have thoughts, I hope you'll post them to the forum. --Peter _ From the issue dated October 12, 2001 No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online B

Re: No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-08 Thread Arthur Smith
ssue dated October 12, 2001 > > No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research > Online > > By JOHN H. EWING > [...]

Re: No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-08 Thread Stevan Harnad
The "No Free Lunch" essay by John Ewing in the Chronicle of Higher Education http://chronicle.com/weekly/v48/i07/07b01401.htm is unfortunately yet another instance of the conflation of the essentials with the optional add-ons (frills). Peer review is essential. Publishers' on-paper texts, PDF, ind

Re: No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-09 Thread David Goodman
It seems clear to me that at research institutions, delayed publication of significant journals will not be acceptable, even if only for a month or two. Such institutions will continue to subscribe to avoid the delay. Journals of less significance to a particular institution have been in most case

Re: No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-09 Thread Andrew Wray
Dear Stevan But this still doesn't address the point of stable financing of the essential peer review process. This problem of stability is the main message I took from John Ewing's arcticle. Subscriptions are a financial firewall, author charges per page or per article might work for some aut

Re: No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-09 Thread Eberhard R. Hilf
why this renewed discussion on long-time settled topic? 1. Scientific work is best bolstered by instant complete information on what colleatues anywhere do. > Thus instant free full text publication of newest results is mandatory. Realization is by local Webserver of scientist, institute, departme

Re: No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-09 Thread Tim Brody
A few points of interest: 1) Ewing seems to forget that the money that goes to pay subscriptions charges _is_ government or college money. Therefore, how can toll-access publishers cry foul when funding bodies decide it would make more sense to have free-access rather than toll-access (and to fund

Re: No Free Lunches: We Should Resist the Push to Rush Research Online

2001-10-09 Thread Arthur Smith
I'm quite confident now that both free "no-frills" author-controlled sites (like the arXiv) and standard "frill-filled" peer-reviewed publishing can coexist, since they serve quite distinct purposes and in some cases audiences. So no argument from me on Tim's # 2 or #3. But I think there's a mis