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Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Catholic Goan surnames
Cornel,
What you need to get caught up with is the use of
smiley faces. You take yourself far too seriously:-))
--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
M
Cornel,
What you need to get caught up with is the use of
smiley faces. You take yourself far too seriously:-))
>
--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mario
> You sure are a very mixed-up kid.
>
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Mario
You sure are a very mixed-up kid.
Cornel
- Original Message -
From: "Mario Goveia"
> --- cornel wrote:
>>
>> ..., all comments can indeed be written without
>> the absurdity of the smiley face as specifically
>> used by you.
>>
> Mario replies:
>>
> Cornel, no comment on the sub
--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ..., all comments can indeed be written without
> the absurdity of the smiley face as specifically
> used by you.
>
Mario replies:
>
Cornel, no comment on the subject of the Portuguese
copying their surnames from Goan Catholics can, in
good conscience, e
Mario
Firstly, with greatest respect, you have failed to answer my question and
are trying to weasel out, as usual, with some absurdity. Secondly, I have
never claimed to be an intellectual as you mistakenly surmise. Thirdly, all
comments can indeed be written without the absurdity of the smile
--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mario
> Like most things that come from you, I am highly
> sceptical that, "if you visit Portugal you will see
> that almost all their surnames were copied from
> us Goan Catholics" :-)). Your smiley at the end of
> your statement, as above, does not am
Mario
Like most things that come from you, I am highly sceptical that, "if you
visit Portugal you will see that almost all their surnames were copied from
us Goan Catholics" :-)). Your smiley at the end of your statement, as
above, does not amuse me at all as I am more interested in the authen
er so humbly.
Cornel
- Original Message -
From: "Alfred de Tavares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC Religion posts
>From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
To: goanet@goanet.o
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I apologize to you (and hope you accept my
>misfortune as your friend) to bring this to your
>attention.
>
Dear Gilbert,
Thanks for your apology. It was not needed from my
perspective. A simple retraction would have done. But
regarding the following:
>
>Let us
From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC Religion posts
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:07:24 -0700 (PDT)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> GL
> Hi Santosh,
> Thanks for your last post on this thread.
>
GL:
I am not against an intellectual FACTUAL expose aka constructive criticism,
even of my religion.
I am against 'BASHING'.
There is a difference between bashing and criticism "using mild, acceptable and
parliamentary language".
Again we are about semantics.
Let us NOT forget what started this
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> GL
> Hi Santosh,
> Thanks for your last post on this thread.
> Below YOU make my EXACT POINT - Precisely and
> Approximately.:=))
>
> You bash / lambaste religion because of any
> crack-pot post that covers any of the following
> subjects that you have outlined be
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Let me be more helpful, if you want to post an anti-Catholic message, why
> don't you just send a private post to George Pinto? And by the way, your
> alter-ego
> George Pinto should know this is a Goanet chat channel. And not a religion
> channel.
I ignore
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Dr.Santosh has listed several topics being addressed by him in this Forum.
Some of them are as follows:
a) Prejudice based on religion, ideology, nationality.
b) Erroneous assertions whether based on religion or
not.
c) Irrational or anti-scientific propaganda.
d) Claims that faith should suppl
GL
Hi Santosh,
Thanks for your last post on this thread.
Below YOU make my EXACT POINT - Precisely and Approximately.:=))
You bash / lambaste religion because of any crack-pot post that covers any of
the following subjects that you have outlined below.
And unfortunately there are many of thos
Gilbert,
I am sorry to say this but you have not cut out the
nonsense. So I will just wade through all the innuendo
and respond briefly to some specific canards you pull
against me.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>"There ought to be no limits on religious bashing on
>Goanet."
>
>So do you really
Dr.Santosh Helekar wrote:
--*In all my posts I have only pointed out the conflict between
science/rationality and supernatural religious explanations of the natural
world and natural phenomena, irrespective of whether these beliefs come from
Christianity, Hinduism or any other religion.
Dear Dr.Santosh Helekar,
My answer has been that homosexuality is abnormal, whether you call it a
sickness or not. The moral issue is that homosexuality cannot be accepted as
normal behaviour, with all its consequences, but the homosexual deserves all
love and compassion. If a patient is pro
GL
Hi Santosh,
This post will be confined to your remarks on religion. My next post will
address your points of homosexuality which IMHO is not entirely / necessarily a
religion-related issue, however much you and others may like to make it.
The responses are directed to and follow each section o
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>We should only discuss what effects some religious
>practices have on other religious or non religious
>communities. Would you agree with this?
>
Dear Nasci,
Thanks for that concession. I am extremely happy and
relieved to be able to call you a g
From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ??? George!
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT)
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What is your assessment? dear Santosh.
>Does your science only leads a tirade against
>&#
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your name suggests that you are of brahmin origin,
I have stated before and repeat again, I have no
caste. I have been accused of being reasonably nice
looking but that is usually from people who have
nothing else nice to say about me and are just b
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What is your assessment? dear Santosh.
>
My assessment is that Nasci Caldeira is prejudiced
against Hinduism and Sikhism. He has also personalized
my general criticism of theistic religion, and become
erroneously convinced that I am attacking his
From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ??? George!
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pedeophile priests and practice are not a Catholic or Christian Doctrine,
but definitely a human f
We have to respect the people of all religions and the values found in all
religious communities. Bigotry is to avoided. There cannot be war in the name
of religion. Religions preach love. Secularism means respectg for all
religions. We do not want secularism without God.
Ivo da C.Souza
--
From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet]RE: CATHOLIC ??? George!
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT)
George:
I know Nasci does not get it. But I wonder if the so-called devout
Catholics on the forum
understand religious chauvinism and will speak out. What if Hind
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> they would, in a manner analogous to the RSS/VHP Hindu fundamentalists, do
> away with secularism,
> and impose a Christian theocracy, or a Western imperialist dominion over
> India.
One reason some of the openly devout types who wear religion o
--- halur rasho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The comment below is why I believe secularism is
>doomed in India and among Indians.
>
Actually, these religious commentators are not proud
of their Indian heritage. Indeed, this one in
particular from down under abhors the entire ancient
Indian cultur
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In coments made about Hindus, and or Muslims and Sikhs; it is their religion,
> and shows in their
> religious practices; in these cases it is not their human failure; but a
> practice of their
> religion; or so they say. These controversial pract
The comment below is why I believe secularism is
doomed in India and among Indians. When majoritarian
elements indulge in religion based bigotry, it can
perhaps be understood (but not excused) as a means to
power. When minorities, whom secularism is designed to
protect, indulge in blatant religious
--- Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>In coments made about Hindus, and or Muslims and
>Sikhs; it is their religion, and shows in their
>religious practices; in these cases it is not
>their human failure; but a practice of their
>religion; or so they say. These controversial
>practices
Response to George down after.
From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ???
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:16:14 -0700 (PDT)
there ought to be no limits on religious and ideological criticism on
Goanet". In the 6 years I
have been on Goanet, I have read ju
--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I agree with Santosh and would rephrase his last
>sentence to read "When warranted and fact-based,
>there ought to be no limits on religious and
>ideological criticism on Goanet".
>
George,
Thanks for rephrasing my last sentence. I hope it
reassu
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We ought to shine a bright light on all harmful religious ideas and
> practices. We ought to
> recognize that religion does not necessarily make a person good. There are
> many among the
> pious and religious who have a sick and depraved mentality
--- P D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Unbridled singling out of a single religious entity
>is indicative of a sick and depraved mentality. While
>encouraging free speech, Goanet Administration
>should establish limits on religious bashing. Devout
>Netters will otherwise be forced to quit instead
On 13/05/05, P D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Salus wrote: Have you given a thought that there may be many who actually
> want
> to read on subjects pertaining to religion?
>
> My reading of Sunil's (avertano teles) post was why do Goanetters
> selectively pick on bashing Catholics?
>
> Could it
Salus wrote: Have you given a thought that there may be many who actually
want
to read on subjects pertaining to religion?
My reading of Sunil's (avertano teles) post was why do Goanetters
selectively pick on bashing Catholics?
Could it be because Catholics simply roll over and turn the other
Hi Cornell,
Thanks for your long post. I read / studied it in its entirety.
There are lots of problems with Goan society. That is why I am
championing changes in it. And get 'a lot of heat' from both those in
the west as well as native Goans. They make it a point to tell me that
my analyses of th
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