Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-15 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I recently posted what The Globe and Mail reported on WMD in Iraq, and despite an additional private request for a response, he has kept silent :-( > Mario replies: Mervyn, I have repeatedly told you that the Toronto Globe & Mail and the Toronto Star both

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Colin, You have nothing intelligent to say in response to the points I have made, so you are now resorting to personal insults and name-calling. Words such as "laughable" and "poppycock" do not pass muster in any debate and are no substitute for facts and logic, and you seem to be sadly deficient

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-15 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Dear, dear Mario, > Please give it up; too many people to handle! You have the wrong person I don't know what you are talking about in regard to Uganda! > Perhaps your good adversary who has now progressed to 3.0 can help you out.check below.

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Alfred de Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mario, > please excuse me for butting in: > Depose the damned dictator by any and all means, but does any political situation justify " the need to .impose freedom and democracy. "? > Mario replies: Alfred, firstly, you are welcome to butt in a

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Dear, dear Mario, > Please give it up; too many people to handle! You > have the wrong person I don't know what you are > talking about in regard to Uganda! > Perhaps your good adversary who has now progressed > to 3.0 can help you out.check bel

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Mario, I had previously written: > Het Mario, > Please try and get your facts right before you > write here. Unless, of course, there was an attack > on Uganda that only you and George Bush know about. > Mervyn3.0 To which you replied: > Very good observation, Gabe! Mario, I am wondering if it's

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Mario Goveia
Colin is so upset that Saddam Hussain was removed from power that he will continue to repeat what everyone knows, that the WMDs were not found, over and over again. I have made a detailed case of why I think the WMDs are still hidden somewhere, but Colin has not responded to a single point that ha

[Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Colin Britto
The author's attempts at spin are laughable. I have watched this debate for the last 6 months, and his tactics are simple: just routinely repeat points, and indulge in gross generalizations (example: if you are against the war in Iraq, you must be pro-Saddam). Mario: do you have a poster of Bush

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 14/05/05, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very good observation, Gabe! It was a mistake for me > to mention Uganda. I should have said Tanzania, which > was attacked on the same day as Kenya. RESPONSE: My Dear, dear Mario, Please give it up; too many people to handle! You have th

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How could Saddam show WMD's that are not there? Even a primary school kid could be foxed by such a preposterous question that you put to us.The WMD's were decommissioned and in reality were not of such a magnitude as made out by the USA. That he used it a

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Mario Goveia
Very good observation, Gabe! It was a mistake for me to mention Uganda. I should have said Tanzania, which was attacked on the same day as Kenya. However, this correction in a long list of attacks on the US and US interests throughout the 90s, none of which were responded to by the Clinton ad

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Mario Goveia
Colin, You are distinguishing yourself on Goanet by routinely spewing generalizations that have no basis in fact. Can you please cite me one example where I have said that the Bush administration can do no wrong? You obviously cannot deal with the specific points that I have made, so I don't blam

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-14 Thread Alfred de Tavares
From: Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 23:43:32 +0100 On 13/05/05, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario replies: &

[Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Colin Britto
The author must realise that it is just HIS case that WMD still exists. No-one else (even BUSH officials) believe this any more.The author is free to believe exactly what he wants to believe and ignore ALL facts. However - that doesn't make the facts go away... I also note he uses terms below like

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 13/05/05, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario replies: > Gabe, it would help the civilized discourse that we > are supposed to have on Goanet if you knew what you > were talking about. I have repeatedly made the case > that the WMDs are still hidden somewhere, whereas you > and the

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Also the author keeps asking the rest of us, the whereabouts of the WMD. His Government insisted that there were WMD's. When these were not found the rhetoric, is did you want Saddam to continue in Iraq. How truly sad, how one can conjure an excuse after

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are > you aware that Clinton's failure to respond to the > series of attacks from WTC-I to Saudi Arabia, Kenya, > Uganda, Somalia and Yemen only emboldened them > leading directly to WTC-II on 9/11. Het Mario, Please try and get your facts right before

[Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Colin Britto
The author indulges in sycophantic fawning over the Bush administration - to him, it can do no wrong. Not even a single mistake... I must remind the audience that no one is infallible. One must ask: does the author keep a poster of the president and other members of the administration on his bedr

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Mario Goveia
Colin Britto wrote: > The comments below are of the type "if you are against American intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq, then you are pro Saddam and Taliban". > > This is a very simplistic evaluation of world events. The author swallows the "with us or against us" and other facets of the doct

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 13/05/05, Colin Britto wrote: > The comments below are of the type "if you are against American intervention > in Afghanistan and Iraq, then you are pro Saddam and Taliban". > > This is a very simplistic evaluation of world events. The author swallows > the "with us or against us" and other f

[Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-12 Thread Colin Britto
The comments below are of the type "if you are against American intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq, then you are pro Saddam and Taliban". This is a very simplistic evaluation of world events. The author swallows the "with us or against us" and other facets of the doctrine of the Bush administ