[Goanet-News] French woman found dead in Goa

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News
French woman found dead in Goa Indo-Asian News Service A French woman was found dead in a trailer parked near Vagator beach in Goa, while a man believed to be her companion was lying unconscious next to her, police said on Monday. The trailer, equipped with modern amenities including a

[Goanet-News] Meet the Prince of Konkani Humour... via You Tube

2008-12-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
The Prince of Konkani Humour: Prince Jacob Why did he take to comedy? What's the challenges in producing films in Konkani? What needs to be done to take Konkani stories to the big screen? And what are his upcoming plans? PRINCE JACOB, the popular figure of the Konkani stage (and of the recent film

[Goanet] The Right to convert

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Sandeep: There is no such thing as a fundamental right to convert any person to one's own religion and the government can impose certain restrictions keeping in view public order, the Supreme Court has ruled.The court's ruling came while dismissing a petition challenging an Orissa law requiring

[Goanet] Shack owners cry foul over ban on Goa beach parties

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News
Shack owners cry foul over ban on Goa beach parties Panaji, Dec 21: Hoteliers have breathed a sigh of relief at the government's decision to exclude hotels from the ban on parties in Goa, but shack owners are crying foul over it. Gaurish Dhond, Goa Hoteliers and Restaurant Owners Association

Re: [Goanet] The Right to convert

2008-12-22 Thread Carvalho
--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am firmly opposed to coercing others to convert against their will by force or fraud. However, in a free society that guarantees freedom of religion, every individual must have the right to voluntarily change their

[Goanet] VOA News - Mumbai's Attacked Hotels Reopen

2008-12-22 Thread Ruby Goes
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-12-21-voa10.cfm Have yourselves a Merry Christmas. rubygoes

[Goanet] SAVE THE GOA EXCHEQUER

2008-12-22 Thread Aires Rodrigues
Goa Government should take austerity measures to stop the unnecessary strain on Goa's exchequer. There has to be a curb on unnecessary traveling by Ministers and in particular the foreign jaunts. The Ministers should keep themselves fit and trim by not wining and dining at the people's cost. In

[Goanet] Souverir of the opening of the new building - Goan Institiue, Dar es Salaam - 3rd December, 1959

2008-12-22 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks, Here is a picture from the 1959 souvenir. If anyone has a picture of a better Goan club house, please post it here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002...@n00/3126257891/sizes/l/in/set-72157611432171339/ For those interested in the rest of the souvenir, here it is in its entirety.

[Goanet] Help Wanted: Composting in the USA Canada

2008-12-22 Thread Clinton Vaz
Dear Goanetters in the US Canada, While at Greenpeace Sweden, I came across a guy that pointed me to http://www.naturemill.com/ which is an American company that makes composting bins that are small enough to be used in apartments. Some models actually fit into the kitchen cabinets! Prices

[Goanet] Why Atheism May Be The Best Way to Understand God

2008-12-22 Thread Venantius Pinto
From Alternet.org Why Atheism May Be The Best Way to Understand God, by Larry Beinhart (Two excerpts) Nowadays, it is common to hear things like God is Energy, or the Universe, or Love, or That Which Quarks Come From (heard that one last night, with great conviction and certainty). If the word of

[Goanet] Foreign Funded charity

2008-12-22 Thread Sandeep Heble
Marshall, I am not per se against an Indian converting from one faith to another. If someone is not treated well in his own religion or ceases to believe in his own religion's philosophies, ideals and beliefs, that person should well be entitled to convert, but the conversion must be voluntary,

[Goanet] Heart to Heart: CM Sir, can you liberate yourself from delusion?

2008-12-22 Thread Ethel Dacosta
Heart to Heart By Ethel Da Costa CM Sir, can you liberate yourself from delusion? I've been traveling like a nomad on the loose.wanting fresh air to run through my hair, from mountains to the cities, driving miles of humanity spread across acres of land, some dry, some desolate, some bursting

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Skin-deep secularism (FN, in the Herald)

2008-12-22 Thread Prakash kamat
- this needs to appear in our dear Gomantak and Tarun Bharat too- prakash --- Goanet Reader wrote: Skin-deep secularism FREDERICK NORONHA builds a case to show that 'secular' campaigners in Goa have their own religious and even caste biases.

[Goanet] The Right to Convert

2008-12-22 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
This is a reply to Selma carvalho's message No: 9, dated: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 on the subject: The Right to Convert Selma writes: Excellent post Father Ivo. We must make clear the position of the church as it has been for a long time. There is grave misconception out there fuelled by right-wing

[Goanet] Wishes

2008-12-22 Thread Marinella Proenca
Aurora of Christmastide Josef and Donkey trudged down the path Over rocks, then 'wasy of cobbled-stone Donkey nudged on to carry his load: Hallowed Tabernacle to the Prince un-born Viagem into Bethlehem's heart. Stopped here - looked on... Weary and hopeful, enquiring along Good Josef He needed a

[Goanet] Ref: Oh God, What Did I do ?

2008-12-22 Thread Freddy Fernandes
What Should I do ? My name is Dom Pedro and I came from a poor family, I am thankful to my parents for helping me to finish my studies, they had to sacrifice a lot to pay for my education, my younger sister was still in School, though I tried very hard all I could do was get a Commerce

[Goanet] Star Hotels v/s Shacks: Turf battle with a biased umpiring from Govt., media and Church in Goa ?

2008-12-22 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears, Where are the foreign tourists most at risk in a terrorist attack: a jam-packed Starred hotel ballroom /discotheque with limited exits and narrow corridors or Goa's churches at midnight or open air beach shacks? If your answer to that question is a beach shack, one of us must be crazy

[Goanet] Growing Up Extreme:On th Peculiarly Vicious Fanatacism of Expatriates

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Frederick had made an interesting observation that many expatriates profess liberal values abroad and are arch conservatives back home. They practice double standards. Secularism for some of them is only skin deep. Here is an article written by Shashi Tharoor in the Washington Post sometime in the

[Goanet] Churchill makes a case for Romi Konkani

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News Service
LINGO LIMBO Churchill makes a case for Romi Konkani Margao: Minister for public works and development (PWD) Churchill Alemao on Sunday made a strong case for the inclusion of Konkani in the Roman script as the official language of the state. Children of the backward classes like Velips,

[Goanet] FEDERATION CUP: Bagan Win, Dempo Lose

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News Service
FED CUP FINAL BARRETO WINS IT FOR BAGAN Dempo Disappoint in Summit Clash Kolkata: Jose Ramirez Barreto, the symbol of Mohun Bagan's resolution and resurgence, guided his team to the summit for the umpteenth time. Karim Bencherifa's bruised and battered side defied the odds in stunning fashion,

Re: [Goanet] The Right to Convert

2008-12-22 Thread Carvalho
--- On Mon, 12/22/08, Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com wrote: My response: But conversions in India, as they are happening today, are not merely about empowering the poor. It is about a sinister and subversive strategy, hatched in the US, backed by the Bush administration over the

[Goanet] Soiled Sons and other Tourist Attractions in Goa (George Menezes, Goanet)

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet Reader
Soiled Sons and other Tourist Attractions in Goa George Menezes If there was a fear that tourism was going to take a beating in Goa, think again. There is too much happening in amchem Goa. And the happenings are of such exciting proportions that it will attract thousands of Indians and

[Goanet] Christians Observe 'Protest Fast' To Mark Orissa Attack Anniversary (SAR News)

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News
Christians Observe 'Protest Fast' To Mark Orissa Attack Anniversary By SAR NEWS MUMBAI, Maharashtra (SAR NEWS) -- Activists of a Catholic forum in Mumbai December 21 observed a daylong fast to mark the first anniversary of the violent attacks on Christians in India. The members of the Catholic

[Goanet] Little Christmas cheer for Indian tourism

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News
from Sanu George, Mohammed Shafeeq, V.S. Karnic, Qaid Najmi, Anil Sharma, Mayabhushan Nagvenkar, Brij Khandelwal and Mayank Agarwal.) http://www.indiaenews.com/business/20081222/166449.htm

[Goanet] French woman found dead in Goa

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News
French woman found dead in Goa Indo-Asian News Service A French woman was found dead in a trailer parked near Vagator beach in Goa, while a man believed to be her companion was lying unconscious next to her, police said on Monday. The trailer, equipped with modern amenities including a

Re: [Goanet] SAVE THE GOA EXCHEQUER

2008-12-22 Thread mario rodrigues
A good opposition party can be respected if they dutifully oppose when they have to(incase of excessive travelling, dinning, dancing, illegal mining, mega projects, crz violations.etc) and not be just mere silent spectators. It appears that whoever is in opposition just waits for the

[Goanet] Conversion

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Sandeep Heble: That person should well be entitled to convert, but the conversion must be voluntary, i.e. without the use of unethical methods like force, fraud or material inducements. Response: Any conversion which is done by force or fraud is no conversion. The Church does not look upon the

[Goanet] Goa books... available

2008-12-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
Dear all: Check out this list of Goa books available with the Other India Bookstore in Mapusa [http://www.otherindiabookstore.com] You can download the list of Goa books in print here (as available with them): http://www.divshare.com/download/6152925-b2f Sorry that some edges of the catalogue

[Goanet] Foreign-funded charity

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Shrikant Barve:This is it.. Marshall Mendonza The article refered by Dr. Barad. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/conversations-with-foreignfunded-charity/372252/ Response: I found the article in the IE. I asked for the weblink to the page in the ministry of home affairs website which gives all

[Goanet] Govt. sponsorred terror on the common man: Our politicians are still not listening

2008-12-22 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears The terrorists attacked the Taj and Trident hotels in Mumbai. Both these hotels are back in business in Mumbai. Their sister hotels will continue to be in business in Goa. The terrorists did not attack Chowpatty or Juhu beaches in Mumbai.These beaches will see life this season while Goa's

[Goanet] CHRISTMAS NEW YEAR GREETING

2008-12-22 Thread GREG RATO
Hi Goannet staff   In behave of me, my wife and my son, WISHING YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS AND A PROSPORUS NEW YEAR 2009, may child Jesus bless you all and our lovely and beautiful GOA, which we very earger to see.   Thanks and Best regards   Greg R Utorda/Saudi Arabia

[Goanet] Conversion and secularism

2008-12-22 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
This is in reply to Message: 3, dated: Sun, 21 Dec 2008, from: Marshall Mendonza under subject titled: Conversion and secularism Marshall writes: ..But what we are also seeing is the harassment of minorities through killing and various kinds of actions and inaction. New legislations, like the

[Goanet] Funding of VHP

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Extracts:Quote: But efforts to investigate the VHP's foreign funding have been thwarted. In a 1999 article, Om Prakash Tiwari documents a distressing missing file of the VHP. He writes: The corridors of power in Delhi have mysteriously suppressed a file of the Income Tax Department which was

[Goanet] Fast train from Laloo to Digu

2008-12-22 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
It was a party time: One of my friends who had been on holiday to Goa asked me what's happening in Goa and Goans these days. Quick came the answer from another friend: Ask Laloo for starting direct train from his home State to Goa! Prompt came another question from another friend - who

[Goanet] comedy with mog

2008-12-22 Thread JANE ALPHONSO
  Hi guys i hope you will enjoy this. with mog from jane   http://uk.youtube.com/watchv=Gfm7tM6tRE4feature=related Sir comedy part 1http://uk.youtube.com/watchv=Vm3Eztter7Ufeature=related Sir COmedy Part 2 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NeKTqXek3iMfeature=related  Sir Comedy part 3

[Goanet] Subject: A Letter to the Archbishop of Goa - By Mario Cabral e Sa

2008-12-22 Thread floriano
Dear Mario Cabral e Sa, Sir, Due to my preoccupation with family matters, the celebrating kind though, I had no time to look into the daily load of newspapers I subscribe to and hopefully I shall be able to catch-up with the goings-on of the past few days. But, as a force of habit, to the

Re: [Goanet] Foreign Funded charity

2008-12-22 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com wrote: I am not per se against an Indian converting from one faith to another. If someone is not treated well in his own religion or ceases to believe in his own religion's philosophies, ideals and beliefs, that person should well be

[Goanet] It's time for Goans to do introspection: Kamat

2008-12-22 Thread mario rodrigues
CM saying it is become a fashion nowadays to oppose everything. Well I was trying to think of his defination of DEVELOPMENT. 1. Does it mean ,develop and develop in coastal areas and let the people die of MALARIA?2. Does it mean, cut down hills mountains and expose Goa to environmental

Re: [Goanet] Ref: Oh God, What Did I do ?

2008-12-22 Thread goasuraj
Dear Freddy, This is a fit script for a RoseFerns' Tiatr, really. Much appreciated. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: Freddy Fernandes ffernandes@emaar.ae To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: [Goanet] Ref: Oh God, What Did I do ?

[Goanet] UK House of Lords discusses Orissa attacks

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
http://indianchristians.in/news/content/view/2660/47/

Re: [Goanet] Pakistan -failed state?

2008-12-22 Thread Roland Francis
Hello Manoj, Just had time to read one chapter of the ebook, but what I have read merits reading of the entire book. The author seems to be balanced while still maintaining a direction he wants to take with the reader. Please tell us something about him. Regards, Roland. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008

[Goanet] The Right to convert

2008-12-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:26:10 +0530 From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com I believe the Supreme Court ruling was flawed. Refer critique given below. Excerpts: Quote: And, although many legal luminaries believe that the 1977 judgment was unconstitutional, since it has been ruled by the

Re: [Goanet] The Right to convert

2008-12-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:37:21 -0800 (PST) From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com I think I am experiencing forced conversions here in the UK. Every time I am on a bus or walking to my favourite butcher to buy mutton (Muslim butchers sell the best mutton here), I have these Jamaican ladies who

Re: [Goanet] Goan joke

2008-12-22 Thread Seb dc
Everyday i learn something new on goanet Today i learnt that there is a 'Joke and a mental Joke'..Without goanet who would have leant all these new things, that popup every now and then! I am having a laugh on the joker, i hope you do as well:-) But there is one problem here. It proves that

[Goanet] Goa's Sunburn under cloud of doubt

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News
Goa's Sunburn under cloud of doubt 22 Dec 2008, 1354 hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: Sunburn, labelled as Asia's biggest music festival, is facing uncertainty with Goa banning beach parties citing security reasons. The three-day festival was scheduled to start from December 26 at North district's Candolim

[Goanet] THANKS TO DALGADO KONKNNI AKADEMI

2008-12-22 Thread sharmila Fernandes
We the family members of  late Joao Agostinho Fernandes  thank the organisors  Dalgado Konknni Akademi, and the Konknni playwright fraternity of the first   Konknni (ROMI LIPI) Sahitya ani Sonvskruti Sommelon to be held on 20th and 21st December, 2008 for naming the venue, of the convention

[Goanet] Poema escrito por Sílvia Bragança (viúva do Prof. Aquino de Bragança), depois do s incidentes de Mumbai (Bombaim)

2008-12-22 Thread Jorge Heitor
Following Gandhi's steps Following Gandhi's steps INDIA can invite the WORLD To make a Great Peace March Physically and intellectually conceived To grew up our World for new actions Of PEACE and LOVE! The courage of all the staff, military or not, In the process of battle to gain the

[Goanet] The Right to Convert

2008-12-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:39:27 +0530 From: Dr. U. G. Barad dr.udayba...@gmail.com But conversions in India, as they are happening today, are not merely about empowering the poor. It is about a sinister and subversive strategy, hatched in the US, backed by the Bush administration over the years.

[Goanet] The right to convert

2008-12-22 Thread Vinay Natekar
Selma wrote : There cannot be a sinister and subversive plot when people have a power to say no. Dear Selma, There is a provision in our Constitutional which gives one right to practice or  propagate any religion. There is a right also to ask people to convert. However, when it comes  to

[Goanet] Growing Up Extreme: On the Peculiarly Vicious Fanatacism of Expatriates

2008-12-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:12 +0530 From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com Frederick had made an interesting observation that many expatriates profess liberal values abroad and are arch conservatives back home. They practice double standards. Secularism for some of them is only skin

[Goanet] Re The right to convert

2008-12-22 Thread Albert Desouza
Albert writes:- None of us have the proper knowledge of religion and of God. Mostly the Roman Catholics boast of their religion as true religion constructed by Jesus Christ and that the pope is the direct descend of Peter who was the \first Pope. I do not want to argue on anything for I have

[Goanet] CHRISTMAS CELEBRATIONS WITH LOT OF VIGLIANCE AND WISDOM IN GOA

2008-12-22 Thread michael iglesias
It's certainly good to celebrate during this festive season but one should not forget what happened in Mumbai recently and God forbid it should never happen in any country again , in Goa we should be very vigilant and use our wisdom wisely during these celebrations, let's not pretend to be

Re: [Goanet] The right to convert

2008-12-22 Thread Carvalho
--- On Mon, 12/22/08, Vinay Natekar vinaynate...@yahoo.com wrote: Mass conversions by the so-called faith healing programmes in the guise of offering social service, etc should be checked at root. Regards Vinay --- Yes Vinay, right behind you mate. While we are at

[Goanet] Meet the Prince of Konkani Humour... via You Tube

2008-12-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
The Prince of Konkani Humour: Prince Jacob Why did he take to comedy? What's the challenges in producing films in Konkani? What needs to be done to take Konkani stories to the big screen? And what are his upcoming plans? PRINCE JACOB, the popular figure of the Konkani stage (and of the recent film

Re: [Goanet] goa's exchequer

2008-12-22 Thread Eugene Correia
Holy smoke that Aires is writing about Goa's exchequer and ministers. For a man of his integrity and guile, he should be the last person to talk about it. I am not surprised at his somersaults. Recent events involving Aires are still too fresh in memory. But then for someone like me who has

[Goanet] Goa news for December 23, 2008

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Bengal mark return to Elite Division - Cricketnext.com [Dec 21, 2008] PTI New Delhi: Bengal returned to the Ranji Trophy Elite Division after registering a 107-run first innings lead

[Goanet] Conversion and secularism

2008-12-22 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
This message is to Marshall Mendonza. Marshall, before I key in my response on above subject, can I ask you as to your definition of the words Conversion and Secularism? I await your response by return message. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad

[Goanet] re poem

2008-12-22 Thread Marinella Proenca
Hi there Since there are some mistakes in the post that has appeared on goanet, I am re-sending my poem. Regards Marinella Aurora of Christmastide- Marinella Proença Josef and Donkey trudged down the path Over rocks, then 'ways of cobbled-stone Donkey nudged on to carry his load:

[Goanet] Police Constable Ambadas Pawar

2008-12-22 Thread Roland Francis
I am glad that at least in one area, I see a significant change for the better. For many many years, the heroic sacrifice of one's life in India did not receive the monetary compensation one would have liked to see given. I hope the following is a typical example of the families of poor victims

[Goanet] KUWAIT: GULAB Carol Singing Competition

2008-12-22 Thread Gulab Kuwait
Kala Mogui KuwaitGulab Working Committee presents GULAB Carol Singing Competition Date: 26th December 2008 at 3:30pm Venue: Carmel School Auditorium, Khaitan, Kuwait KMK - Kala Mogui Kuwait

[Goanet] GOAN NAMES

2008-12-22 Thread augusto pinto
Dears I think Valmiki Faleiro's Herald Sunday Mirror article series on Goan names is quite hilarious. But underlying the humour is the fact that giving a name to a child is a political act. An act whereby the identity of the child is sought to be defined. Somewhere after India's independence and

[Goanet] Is religion...

2008-12-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha
... the only thing there is to discuss on Goanet? After 13+ years here, it seems as if we're having all our bandwidth clogged up with just one issue. Sad! FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org M: +91-9822122436 P: +91-832-2409490

[Goanet] Goanet Weddings: Joaquim Da Cruz Ashlyn Lobo (Loutolim)

2008-12-22 Thread Goanet News
Loutolim, Salcete (Goa) was the venue for the mid-week (Dec 18, 2008) wedding of Joaquim Da Cruz and Ashlyn Lobo of Vasco. The groom is son of the popular musician Emiliano -- who has entertained Goa with his Latino-style music for a generation and more. Nuptials at 5.30 pm was at the Loutolim

[Goanet] VOA News - India Says Prepared for All Measures if Pakistan Fails to Act Against Extremists

2008-12-22 Thread Ruby Goes
What a messy situation. http://www.voanews.com/english/voa-22dec08-1.cfm rubygoes

[Goanet] Could be Goa?

2008-12-22 Thread Hartman de Souza
Hartman writes: Just received the article below from a friend. It's very beautifully written and very eloquent, and strange though it may seem, is signed 'Anonymous'. Somewhere in the article, towards the end, the writer says that where Mumbai goes, the rest of the country follows. How true.

[Goanet] Will someone ask Manohar Parrikar what is his stand on what his party colleague in Orissa has said on the floor of the Orissa Assembly?

2008-12-22 Thread Albertina Almeida
BJP legislator Mahesh Sahu is reported to have remarked on the floor of the Orissa Assembly that those who felt apprehensive could go to Italy, Australia or Kerala to celebrate Christmas.(see news item from Indian Express of 19th December below). Will someone (ideally journos) ask Manohar Parrikar

[Goanet] Right to Convert

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Vinay Natekar: The conversions by force, fraud and inducements was are under debate. Have a look at the conversions in Madhya Pradesh, Orissa and Arunachal Pradesh and their impact on law and order there which compelled some Indian states to implement ban on conversions But Today we can see

[Goanet] Ref: Merry Christmas

2008-12-22 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Dear Goanetters Let the spirit of Christmas, that, forever and ever endures, Leave it's richest blessings, In the hearts of you and all your loved ones. Wishing you all a very Holy, Happy, Healthy and Blessed Christmas May the joys of the season be yours now and always With much love and

[Goanet] Muntadar Al-Zaidi expected to be shot_Reminds one of the satyagrahis

2008-12-22 Thread Venantius Pinto
Muntadar Al-Zaidi expected to be shot after he hurled the first shoe — so no point in making the point that, under Saddam Hussain he would have been killed. Its is interesting how things change and no correlations through analyses are permissible when someone is willing to put his / her life on

[Goanet] Conversion and Secularism

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Dr Barad: Marshall, before I key in my response on above subject, can I ask you as to your definition of the words Conversion and Secularism? Response: Could you inform us what you understand by the words Conversion and Secularism? I will then respond. I do not have the time or patience to play

[Goanet] Ref: Heart to Heart: CM Sir, can you liberate yoursel ffrom delusion?

2008-12-22 Thread Freddy Fernandes
In support of Message: 4 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:58:59 -0500 From: Ethel Dacosta etheldaco...@gmail.com Subject: [Goanet] Heart to Heart: CM Sir, can you liberate yourself from delusion? Dear Ethel, CM Sir, you really should liberate yourself from the delusion that all's well in God's

[Goanet] Right to Convert

2008-12-22 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Santosh:if you tell somebody that they will be cured from cancer if they pray for this saint to intercede on their behalf, as soon as they convert, and you sincerely believe what you are telling them, then are you committing a fraud? I have a suspicion that our legal system says no. Otherwise, it