Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-06 Thread Oscar Carmino Lobo
(Without prejudice) My dear Jose I admire your principles that you do not mix apples with oranges i.e your friendship with what is right and wrong. Unfortunately, there are many out there do not know what they do. Since the last circa 3 months, we have tried to educate supposedly the "so called

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-05 Thread Jose Colaco
On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Mervyn Lobo wrote: Doc, When you substitute "Bahamians" where you have used "East African Goan," you will see what a wide tar brush you are using. Mervyn RESPONSE: Dear Mervyn, While I cannot speak for all Canadians or Bahamians, to the best of my knowledge, neit

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-05 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Jose Colaco wrote: > ps: I have NO idea why British East African Goans have this anti-Portugal and > anti-Britain > bone stuck in them. As far as I know, NOT ONE of these Goans or their > forebears were  > forced to migrate to East Africa by the British or Portuguese. . > > Is it possible that t

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-04 Thread Jose Colaco
On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:31 PM, Mervyn Lobo wrote: (1) You and me see eye to eye on most issues (2) Now, the issue of Portuguese citizenship and Goans can only be of value to those who want to abandon Goa and seek their fortune in Europe. (3) For Goans who will always remain in Goa, the Portugu

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-03 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Jose Colaco, You and me see eye to eye on most issues. On a few, we have differences. I have no pleasure in highlighting those differences.  A good presentation on any issue can make the reader here think, possibly change his/her mind, and reduce our differences. I am here to learn. I am also

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-03 Thread Jose Colaco
Dear Mervyn, Read and Think about this statement of yours again ( I will respond later after I return from work): "The problem here is that no one before 1961 could apply for Portuguese citizenship. Portuguese citizenship was forced down our throats" ANSWER: 1: What are you saying Mervyn?

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-03 Thread Mervyn Lobo
"J. Colaco < jc>" wrote: > What surprised me was that Mervyn made that particular comment.I thought > Mervyn (as a Canadian citizen) would have known that in many countries, a > person remains a citizen until he renounces it. Doc, I agree with the contention that if you apply for the citizenship

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-02 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
On 2 September 2013 07:46, Paulo Colaco Dias wrote: "My response serves to emphasize the fact that Goans born before 1961 are still Portuguese citizens today because they never lost citizenship rights according to Portugal." COMMENT: And you are absolutely right, Paulo. What surprised me was t

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-02 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
Yes, Jose, you are right. Of course I was responding to the original article from the British Daily Mail of 13 May 2013 and the excellent response from Ferrao and Fernandes posted in this forum. As a lawyer, I presented the legal position of Portugal, its Portuguese Nationality Law and its valid

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-02 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Again, the Anglophile Goan versus the Lusophile Goan tug-of-war. Both are not wrong... yet neither is fully right, IMNSHO! FN

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-02 Thread Jose Colaco
On Sep 1, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Mervyn Lobo wrote: "Paulo Colaco Dias, I can always depend on you to provide comic relief on Goanet. The only reason why Goans born before Dec 1961 are Portuguese is because the Portuguese insist they are. " COMMENT: My dear Mervyn, Is it possible that 'my learn

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-01 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Paulo Colaco Dias wrote: > To put things into perspective, it is a fact that Goa has currently today a > Chief Minister  > called Manohar Gopalkrishna Prabhu Parrikar who was born on the 13 December > 1955  > at Mapusa, Bardez, Portuguese Province of Goa - an integrant part of the > Portuguese 

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-09-01 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
un...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Goanet Reader Sent: 31 August 2013 11:16 To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Subject: [Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org) Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans

[Goanet] DEBATE: Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese (Ferrao & Fernandes, Kafila.org)

2013-08-31 Thread Goanet Reader
Europeans of An Other Colour -- Why the Goans are Portuguese By R. Benedito Ferrão & Jason Keith Fernandes 12ch...@gmail.com jason.k.fernan...@gmail.com AUGUST 31, 2013 This article serves as a response to Sir Andrew Green's comment on the alleged misuse of Portuguese