Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-19 Thread Cornel DaCosta
From: "Frederick "FN" Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies" Much of Selma's "lack of dignity of

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-18 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
I read Jerry Fernandes' post, and as I analyze it, there is little difference from the message from Carmo. Both emphasize the need for discipline, education and perseverance as young Goans are trained by THEIR parents, schools and colleges. This will break down caste, class, social and econom

Re: [Goanet] Goan \"shippies\" and \"gulfies\"

2007-03-17 Thread Jerry Fernandes
Hi,I do support Selma in her mails. Caste system has been in India for centuries and how it came about, who started this practice is not known to me, but the reason it was started must have been to assign jobs to different people. And the place India must have been a better place than. Brahmins,

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-17 Thread Frederick \"FN\" Noronha
In a caste-defined and hegemonised society this is entirely understandable. Sanskritisation is a term coined by the eminent Indian sociologist, M.N.Srinivas, to denote the process by which castes placed lower in the caste hierarchy seek upward mobility by emulating the rituals and practices of th

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"/to Cornel

2007-03-16 Thread Carvalho
--- Cornel DaCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Selma > You are absolutely spot on regarding Catholic Goan > traditional derision of > many a person's occupation---particularly pertaining > to the examples you > provided. > -- Dear Cornel, Oddly enough my humour

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-16 Thread sonia gomes
ld have been > deemed a reasonably > intelligent people. > Cornel > - Original Message - > From: "Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Sunith Velho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Goa's > premiere mailing list, > estb. 1994!" >

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-15 Thread Bosco D'Mello
On Tue Mar 13 07:20:43 PDT 2007, Carvalho wrote: Dear Bosco, I was absolutely serious in my defense of the Gulf-worker. I find it abhorrent that this condescension exists for him in Goan society, reflected and caricatured by writers on this forum. RESPONSE: I don't understand what it is you a

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-15 Thread Cornel DaCosta
IL PROTECTED]> To: "Sunith Velho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies" Goans have a long history of lack of respect for the

[Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-15 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Often the lack of motivation / school drop-out of the student stems from a well-meaning elder (parent, uncle / aunt or older brother / sister) assuring a youngster that they can be sponsored to go abroad and thus get out of a "bad system". The blame (and the only reason for the failure) is place

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-14 Thread Carvalho
--- Sunith Velho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately Selma turned this into a caste debate > and then a class debate > entirely fabricated from the chip (suspended by a > Fendi strap) that she > carries on her shoulder. - Dear Sunith, Part of the fol

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-13 Thread Sunith Velho
Bosco, I only derided the lack of motivation of most youngsters of the Catholic community while at school and the tendency of certain members of this forum to blame the education system for that. I pointed out that the opportunity to make money by doing menial labour in the Gulf or EUROPE wa

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-13 Thread Carvalho
--- Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Selma on the other hand would be better off if she > includes a disclaimer at > the start of her messages indicating whether she is > being serious or silly. > Both are acceptable - one more than the other. --- Dear

Re: [Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-13 Thread Bosco D'Mello
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May

[Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"

2007-03-10 Thread Arnold Noronha
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May