Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-19 Thread Cornel DaCosta
] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies Much of Selma's lack of dignity of labour is about the low social status and contempt that the upper castes (Bamons and other so-called elites

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-18 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
I read Jerry Fernandes' post, and as I analyze it, there is little difference from the message from Carmo. Both emphasize the need for discipline, education and perseverance as young Goans are trained by THEIR parents, schools and colleges. This will break down caste, class, social and

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-17 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha
In a caste-defined and hegemonised society this is entirely understandable. Sanskritisation is a term coined by the eminent Indian sociologist, M.N.Srinivas, to denote the process by which castes placed lower in the caste hierarchy seek upward mobility by emulating the rituals and practices of

Re: [Goanet] Goan \shippies\ and \gulfies\

2007-03-17 Thread Jerry Fernandes
Hi,I do support Selma in her mails. Caste system has been in India for centuries and how it came about, who started this practice is not known to me, but the reason it was started must have been to assign jobs to different people. And the place India must have been a better place than.

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-16 Thread sonia gomes
Message - From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sunith Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies Goans have a long history of lack of respect

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies/to Cornel

2007-03-16 Thread Carvalho
--- Cornel DaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Selma You are absolutely spot on regarding Catholic Goan traditional derision of many a person's occupation---particularly pertaining to the examples you provided. -- Dear Cornel, Oddly enough my humourous take

[Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-15 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Often the lack of motivation / school drop-out of the student stems from a well-meaning elder (parent, uncle / aunt or older brother / sister) assuring a youngster that they can be sponsored to go abroad and thus get out of a bad system. The blame (and the only reason for the failure) is placed

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-15 Thread Cornel DaCosta
] To: Sunith Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies Goans have a long history of lack of respect for the dignity of labour. Someone is a poder, someone is a kharvi

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-15 Thread Bosco D'Mello
On Tue Mar 13 07:20:43 PDT 2007, Carvalho wrote: Dear Bosco, I was absolutely serious in my defense of the Gulf-worker. I find it abhorrent that this condescension exists for him in Goan society, reflected and caricatured by writers on this forum. RESPONSE: I don't understand what it is you

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-14 Thread Carvalho
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selma on the other hand would be better off if she includes a disclaimer at the start of her messages indicating whether she is being serious or silly. Both are acceptable - one more than the other. --- Dear Bosco,

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-14 Thread Sunith Velho
Bosco, I only derided the lack of motivation of most youngsters of the Catholic community while at school and the tendency of certain members of this forum to blame the education system for that. I pointed out that the opportunity to make money by doing menial labour in the Gulf or EUROPE

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-14 Thread Carvalho
--- Sunith Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately Selma turned this into a caste debate and then a class debate entirely fabricated from the chip (suspended by a Fendi strap) that she carries on her shoulder. - Dear Sunith, Part of the folly of

Re: [Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-13 Thread Bosco D'Mello
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May

[Goanet] Goan shippies and gulfies

2007-03-10 Thread Arnold Noronha
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May