Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-07 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha
Hi Gadgil, When I mention a section who retained loyalties to the British, I didn't even remotely mean the Anglo-Indians. Being a community which was part-British and part-Indian, their own dual-loyalties could be well understood. It is nobody's case that Goans are part-Portuguese (except a very

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-07 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 07/07/06, Frederick FN Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gadgil, When I mention a section who retained loyalties to the British, I didn't even remotely mean the Anglo-Indians. Being a community which was part-British and part-Indian, their own dual-loyalties could be well understood. It

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-07 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha
That's not unexpected. I think Portuguese cultural colonialism was very strong, together with the switch in religion they effected. Add these two facts to the reality that the Portuguese managed to keep the general population very apolitical (and we can't just blame Salazar for that) inspite of

[Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing

2006-07-07 Thread richard
I would like to add to what Fred writes apropos the above subject. Religion during the Portuguese rule played a big role in the social and political lives of the people.I say political because many a time the religious head was also a part of the ruling dispensation besides the usual State

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-06 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 20:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Frederick \FN\ Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Cornel, Gabe and Fredrick and Dominic for your responses. Yes, there is plenty of Anglophilia in India, witness characters like Nirad C. Chaudhuri who made a religion out of it.

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-06 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 06/07/06, Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 20:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, there is plenty of Anglophilia in India, witness characters like Nirad C. Chaudhuri who made a religion out of it. But as you yourself point out, there is a

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-05 Thread Mario Goveia
While I'm not a Goan in Goa, I'm not sure what the big deal is here. Even though I don't have a dog in this fight, I rejoiced in Italy's stunning victory last night and will rejoice if Portugal defeats the French tonight. I always support a southern European team over a northern European team.

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-04 Thread cornel
for you to examine, having started with your enigmatic football cheering question in Goa. Cornel - Original Message - From: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Goa rejoicing with Portugal win?

2006-07-04 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha
Hi Gadgil, With Portugal, the responses -- both of likes and dislikes -- tend to be far deeper than is the case with our British colonial cousins. Agreed. But then, Goa is a far smaller place, Lisbon ruled (part of) the area for as long as 451 years, brought about some very far-reaching changes in