Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-08 Thread Oscar Lobo
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for le

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 19:20:26 -0400 From: "J. Colaco < jc>" Now don't play Clinton with me. He was playing with Monica. Apart from that, he IS my favourite US President. Mario adds: If Clinton is your favorite US President, which would fit under the "Birds of a feather..." rule, it seems you

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-02 Thread Mario Andrew Rodrigues
hey care for the fisher folks future in terms of fishing, or for the people of calangute & candolim who love the beach. Best Wishes to you and GSRP. Regards Mario Andrew Rodrigues > From: "floriano" > To: , "Goa's premiere mailing list,estb

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-02 Thread Bosco D'Mello
The subject line is sure to catch our attention. -Original Message- From: sallesfons...@. > The main purpose of Fr. Theotónio is to blame Portugal and nothing > else! However, he lives in Portugal and is paid by a portuguese > University. RESPONSE: The first edition of this book was

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-02 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
2009/9/1 Carvalho : [1] Oh JC, tut tut, we're not going to play the old Clintonian trick of "it all depends on what the definition of is is". [2] Oh by the way, keep raking the dirt on me, keep digging, that is your usual style, when you're losing an argument isn't it? Two quick points: a: Eithe

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread Carvalho
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: Perhaps, Selma will now advise us WHERE it is jc has stated > that > Teotonio's book 'IS' biased. > -- Oh JC, tut tut, we're not going to play the old Clintonian trick of "it all depends on what the definition of is is". Oh by

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
Teotoniobab is a highly qualified, recognized and accomplished Goan historian. I hope people would offer substantive criticisms and refutations of his work rather than smear him like spoiled children. Cheers, Santosh --- On Tue, 9/1/09, sallesfons...@sapo.pt wrote: > > The main purpose of Fr

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
2009/9/1 Carvalho : [1] After confessing that he has not read the book, he goes on to tell us it is biased. [2] How did JC decide something is biased without having read it. Interalia, intra-violet and infra-red? Now that we have 'solved' a number of misrepresentations by Selma e,g. A whole gen

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread sallesfonseca
Message-ID: <493963b50909010548w556c1d57tf178dc73e3c91...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The main purpose of Fr. Theotónio is to blame Portugal and nothing else! However, he lives in Portugal and is paid by a portuguese University. Of course he is no

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread floriano
uraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: "Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या " To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese Oscar,

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread Carvalho
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > From: J. Colaco < jc> > > a: How does it describe misery? RESPONSE: Again, I don't want to address JC's infallible logic but I am left with no option. After confessing that he has not read the book, he goes on to tell us it is biased. How did JC

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Frederick [FN] Noronha wrote: Oscar, you seem to be referring to the 19th or 20th century. The book in question relates to 17th century Goa. Have you, by any chance, an idea of the points it is making? My dear Oscar Lobo, Allow me to preface my comment/questions with the following: Preface: 1:

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
Oscar, you seem to be referring to the 19th or 20th century. The book in question relates to 17th century Goa. Have you, by any chance, an idea of the points it is making? Or are you going by commonly-held perceptions which might not be grounded in reality? FN 2009/9/1 Oscar Lobo : > Re: Goans liv

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-09-01 Thread Oscar Lobo
Dear Bosco, Kindly post the following on your next Goanet Digest. Re: Goans lived in misery under Portuguese. It is interesting to see comments made about Goans living in misery during Portuguese rule. I must say these are "shamai stories" heard by Goans who were not in Goa. Some Goans of Bombay

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-08-31 Thread Mario Goveia
From: Jose Agnelo do Rosario Pinto Goans lived in misery under Portuguese: Teotonio Written by RAMNATH N PAI RAIKAR Friday, 21 August 2009 01:16 ?NAVHIND TIMES Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 07:22:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo I wonder what exactly "misery" in this context means. People

Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-08-23 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
y"? Can someone clarify as I have not yet read Teotonio's book?   - Original Message From: Jose Agnelo do Rosario Pinto To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" ; Goanet Sent: Sunday, 23 August, 2009 6:31:06 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under

[Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese

2009-08-22 Thread Jose Agnelo do Rosario Pinto
Goans lived in misery under Portuguese: Teotonio Written by RAMNATH N PAI RAIKAR Friday, 21 August 2009 01:16  NAVHIND TIMES Well-known Goan historian and head of the department of history, at Universidade Lusofona, Lisbon, TEOTONIO R DE SOUZA speaks in an exclusive interview with RAMNATH N PAI RA