On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 2:22:02 PM UTC-4, Joshua Smith wrote:
That sounds wonderful. Especially compared to the alternative of forcing
us to update to a new language version, which is what GAE has historically
done. I’d love to be left behind on a fork that they stop messing with.
Yup, golang is the winner. Perfect fit for GAE's architecture, URL routing
included in stdlib... love it.
On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 3:04:44 AM UTC-5, Tapir wrote:
you will find it really difficult to implement oauth, sessions, rest,
rbac, etc...
Webapp2 it's completely abandoned! And
I like the design of the new query tool, but I would also like to see the
URL updated during navigation so that we can bookmark queries. I use that
extensively with the query tool in the old appspot.com admin panel and it's
really handy.
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Has anyone else observed this?
I haven't used the new query tool much. I tried to edit an entity a few
days ago, but it had a List type and the tool warned me that there could
be a problem if I chose to save, so I hit cancel. I noticed that it was
also not possible to delete fields within that
This thread could use a bump; lots of good stuff in here!
On Sunday, November 9, 2014 1:48:33 PM UTC-5, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
I just hope that someone is busy reinventing the datastore viewer. That
would be compelling.
Today I have a link to a new datastore viewer in my admin console. The
On Saturday, November 8, 2014 2:29:02 PM UTC-5, Josh Whelchel (Loudr) wrote:
Also, to those criticisms of the new log viewer, what's the basis for your
complaints? I love the new viewer and after adjusting to it (admittedly the
transition took a few days) - it's MUCH faster and easier to
Perhaps it is selfish on my part, but in some ways I am glad that GAE is
not getting much attention. Fixing bugs in legacy code is not exciting work
and a new generation of engineers at Google may be tempted to improve
things that aren't broken instead of doing the hard work of maintaining the
Possibly just a display bug in the Google Apps control panel.
I have two Google Apps domains with SSL enabled on one app. They're both
showing $0.00 in the appspot.com control panel. In usage history, it shows
that I stopped getting billed for them on April 1st.
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I have one app that's running on 1.9.0, and it's not showing that issue.
Graph shows 1 instance, as usual.
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I have also experienced deployment errors today, but was able to get
through eventually.
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It's messed up over here too, my mailbox is flooded with DEADLINE_EXCEEDED
errors
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Anyone know if there's a way to check in the control panel if we're now in
the clear billing-wise?
Under Usage History I have a Charge Failed followed by Billing Setup
Successful a couple days later (I'm assuming that was somebody at Google,
since it wasn't me).
Basically I want to make sure
I also got paged for downtime at 3:54PM, but nothing at 4:37PM.
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On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:30:11 AM UTC-4, stephanos wrote:
Personally I find $0.12 per GB per hour quite expensive, that's about $86
per GB per month. I would be totally happy with 100MB.
I would also be much more likely to sign up for 100MB at $10/month.
I suspect the reason they
Our alerting just tripped again, although it was down for a shorter period
this time.
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On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:33:00 PM UTC-4, Jesse Rohwer wrote:
1. While we will be moving to scattered ids in production soon
4. If you need small ids, you won't be able to rely on automatic ids for
this. One option would be to use the allocate_ids() functions to manually
allocate ids.
GAE's technology doesn't scale down to small projects
I don't agree with this. I run several small projects on GAE, some for
free. There are limitations, but if you work within them it is an excellent
platform for small projects.
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The efficient threading means your Cost per request is often MUCH, MUCH
lower, especially if you are using Google API’s where the instance has idle
cycles.
I think we will see even more improvement here when [1] is completed. Go
instances can probably handle a LOT more simultaneous
Back online now? Yikes, that sucked. Looking forward to postmortem from
Google.
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My app is dead.
Getting 500s or no response from the admin console and the status dashboard.
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Building framed out of concrete? Wow.
Also, that's a lot of servers :o
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Yep, latency is way up in the last 4 hours or so on all three apps I'm
monitoring, one Python, two Go. Very spiky. Hope someone's looking at it.
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Wow, great news that we will all get to try this soon.
Any premium members out there tried splitting traffic to US/EU based on
location? I'm hoping Route53's latency-based routing will be able to send
traffic to the nearest datacenter with minimal hassle.
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to use and saves a lot of effort and
time.
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I tried out the traffic splitting feature today and noticed it doesn't
work for custom domains, only traffic to appspot.com.
This seems kinda important, so shouldn't it be documented in:
https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/trafficsplitting
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By using backends I now see log entries in the range of 20-30 ms for
processing a request that is enqueued to the taskqueue compared up to
several 100 milliseconds that were consumed (or kept in queue) on frontends.
Impressive, thanks very much for posting your results.
Did you happen to
What I've observed is that a specific app may tend to get slower over time
as the cluster it runs on gets busier.
Eventually an app may get moved to a new cluster. This may include a few
minutes of hard downtime, even for HRD apps. Afterwards performance can be
dramatically better.
Someone at
The only way around this right now is to upload to a new version,
manually warm up that version, and then switch the default. This is a
huge PITA.
I have had this process automated since they added set_default_version to
appcfg.py. Can't imagine deploying without it.
A new mode like
Seems like my apps were serving only error pages for a couple of minutes.
Admin console was down too.
Seems to be back now, though.
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Interestingly our average request latency improved after each downtime.
MS/req went down from about 120ms/req to 70ms/req after the first and is
now down to 35ms/req after the second.
A couple minutes of downtime is not a big deal from my perspective and I
very much appreciate the improved
to
remove any of the owners.
Weird but that's how it works.
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:48:08 PM UTC-4, Brandon Thomson wrote:
Has anyone figured out a fix for this? I have a few apps with three owners
but all three are the only SMS verified owner.
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The app I had trouble with is an HR app so I can confirm it is not only M/S
apps experiencing the problem.
My app is currently working great but I am watching it closely since others
have seen the problems recur.
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Seems like we are back to normal since 6 hours ago... did anyone else see
improvements?
Hope it lasts!
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I've been getting lots of the same message as Klaas (request was aborted;
contact app engine team) for a couple days on a go-runtime app. Some
details in this
thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine-go/a0orbG_oER8
In addition to requests getting aborted filesystem
Thanks for this compiled template idea, Sanjay. I implemented it on a go app
with about 30 templates today and it took average cold start time from 250ms
down to just over 100ms.
Even better is that I suspect this will reduce the chance that instances
will fail to start correctly during the
Good suggestion. At least until we have workable multithreadding I have
become very reluctant to use RPCs unless absolutely necessary. It helps keep
the instance number down.
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I think it is great the switchover time was extended. My apps are mostly
optimized for the change by now but it will be nice to have some extra time
to make sure the costs are stable.
And yes, GAE is still a great value.
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I asked about this in the old billing FAQ thread but I don't think there was
an official reply. My guess is that each deploy will cost 5-8c per running
instance due to the restarts either way you do it (but I haven't tested it).
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I, too, still have a very healthy margin from mostly Adsense revenue after
the billing changes.
I am still convinced GAE is a good choice for shoestring budget indie
developers like myself if the project fits the platform, but suspect many
will choose avoid it due to all the recent noise and
Yes, I seem to have the same issue. The scheduler basically keeps an idle
instance around all the time even though latency on the first instance is
1.8ms and it is not necessary.
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Kenneth's post describes my feelings pretty well. Changing platforms is
completely out of the question for me but I am concerned about the long-term
health of GAE. All this bad publicity certainly doesn't do it any good.
I suspect the short 2-week transition period has been chosen because GAE
Me too. I like most of the ideas GAE is based on and would probably keep
using it even if they doubled the price again. But if the responses in these
forums are any indication, many potential users are going to compare based
on price and GAE definitely comes off looking premium-priced compared
I have been experimenting with deploying a new version and switching the
default when this happens; seems to fix the problem for a while. YMMV
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Back to normal here, too. Thanks.
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Seeing this problem on my master/slave app intermittently too.
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Here is some example logging output, it usually hits DeadlineExceeded on
some random import statement:
2011-05-24 09:16:23.034 / 500 488641ms 910cpu_ms 0kb Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/534.24 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/11.0.696.68
Safari/534.24,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
I'd be more optimistic if the multithreaded Python runtime was ready for
production and there was a clear upgrade path for existing apps. Until then
the price difference is anything but minimal.
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Here is an idea for the FAQ: How will versions work with the new pricing?
Currently, when switching default versions, old and new instances are spun
up simultaneously for a while. Will switching default versions thus incur
additional fees? How does the 15-minute granularity on instance charges
On Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:22:05 PM UTC-4, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
At I/O I got the strong impression that while
G is working on some sort of partial threading solution for Python, it
wasn't likely to surface before the billing changes.
Very disappointing if true. Thanks for sharing.
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Is anyone looking into the elevated Python serving error rates over the last
two days?
http://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/serving/2011/03/24
I have some trivial requests with no RPCs taking over 20s to serve.
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Ikai Lan (Google)
- The deadline for Task Queue and Cron requests has been raised to 10
minutes.
This is really great for background processing and timed tasks which
need greater than 1 minute resolution. Thank you!
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On Jul 22, 2:03 pm, Daniel danielshaneup...@gmail.com wrote:
All of my sites have stopped serving, is this a know issue and will it
be fixed soon?
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the current
results after each fetch and skip fetching the rest if you find you
have enough results to display something useful to the user.
Regards,
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On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:28 AM, coltsith conla...@gmail.com wrote:
Tim,
thanks for responding.
Yes, I know the user won't want
I think it is only 10 versions per application. I got the error message today.
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote:
There's an issue with version deletion for some versions that end up in a
bad state. The version is deleted in the system, but in your UI it
IMHO splitting up entities may be regarded as premature optimization
unless your calculations say daily bandwidth usage to datastore is
going to be a problem.
Regards,
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Blixt andreasbl...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
If I have a model
In my experience you can't trust the eta parameter. It's usually
pretty close but often tasks will be as many as 10 minutes late.
On Jun 11, 10:46 am, james lesorg james.les...@googlemail.com wrote:
I really enjoyed this talk. Would make a great article.
I wonder whether i understand the
This issue has been open for about a year:
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1646
Also, appstats is showing total CPU usage, not total memory usage.
On Jun 9, 3:29 am, Aaron aaron.t.che...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is an example of the AppStats record for a sample page
Really fantastic stuff in here, every GAE dev should watch them.
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We are also experiencing very high query latency, sometimes enough
that a non-compound query that matches one datastore entity will not
complete after 30s and all our available serving instances get eaten
up. We're going to try adding deadlines for all queries today and see
if that saves our
Yes, we are also seeing this. Usually the call at the end of the
traceback is something related to the filesystem. I think this is
caused by the increasingly poor datastore performance.
On Jun 1, 6:16 pm, Dave Peck davep...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In the past week, I've seen an alarming number of
Haha, nicely put. This message has been a running joke in the
#appengine IRC channel for more than a year every time there is a
service hiccup.
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Thanks Brandon,
that's great for informing a critical start-up issue; however
Yes, that was my experience too
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Get latency looks to be pretty nominal today, around 200ms:
http://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/datastore/2010/05/26#ae-trust-detail-datastore-get-latency
In my experience 5s fetch times are not impossible for cold entities
but exceedingly rare, probably less than 0.01% of all fetch
I recommend the try expect: in main.py, it's pretty easy. I have
been using this:
try:
...
except:
import os
if os.environ.get('SERVER_SOFTWARE','').startswith('Goog'):
from google.appengine.api import xmpp
import traceback
import logging
msg = Exception during app
I didn't have to take any action, they all run immediately. There is a
30s delay if one fails due to 500 error.
On May 22, 11:13 am, Ryan Weber ryan.we...@gmail.com wrote:
I downloaded and am running the latest SDK (in About
GoogleAppleEngineLauncher, I see it is version 1.3.4.794), but when I
1500 tasks per minute would be 2 160 000 tasks per day which exceeds
the billing quota of 1 000 000. Maybe you can aggregate your tasks for
better results.
Regards,
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On May 21, 2:00 pm, Waleed Abdulla wal...@ninua.com wrote:
It seems that the speed at which the task queue executes tasks
/html')])
return [config.FORBIDDEN_MESSAGE]
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On Apr 6, 7:00 pm, Eze garzon.luc...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings! I have the feeling this is an old question, but I can't
find a specific answer. Is it possible to host
cron does not run at 3 second intervals so that would not work.
if TransientError occurs the task worker will return an error and be
retried. as long as your task is idempotent or you are using a
transactional task you don't need to do anything. The bad news is it
sometimes takes 15-30s for this
Are you using python or java? what is your framework?
On Feb 20, 1:26 am, Anders i...@blabline.com wrote:
This has been discussed before but the problem still remains. It seems
that GAE is no longer in a preview release version (as far as I can
see). Having a cold start initiation time of 10
Since the maint period has ended I have been seeing this:
Checking if new version is ready to serve.
Will check again in 1 seconds.
Checking if new version is ready to serve.
Will check again in 2 seconds.
Checking if new version is ready to serve.
Will check again in 4 seconds.
Checking if new
As well, one of the rollbacks failed and the app lost it's default
version. Under default every column read 'No' and the app was not
responding to any requests at my domain. I have not seen that behavior
before.
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As well, one of the rollbacks failed and the app lost it's default
version. Under default every column read 'No' and the app was not
responding to any requests at my domain. I have not seen that behavior
before
Yes, very good idea. I did not know until you mentioned that the queue
works this way or that we should wait and check for the version to
show up.
On Feb 17, 10:46 pm, Andrew Chilton andychil...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent :) That sounds good and something I hadn't realised too. I'm
happy to put
Whew, back to normal. Thanks very much to App Engine team for the help!
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Charles, the app instance can be unloaded at any time and a new one
will initialize to handle the next incoming request. there can be up
to 30 at once. it is by design, not an error.
On Feb 12, 12:20 am, Charles char...@whoischarles.com wrote:
Hi all,
I've created a very simple application as
love the custom admin pages! Works very well for my existing admin
pages with just an app.yaml change.
auto-retry is probably for the best now that writes can be easily
deferred with task-queue and request latency is not as big of a
concern. though I am curious if we can predict how long .get()
though I am curious if we can predict how long .get()
and .fetch() will potentially block for? Seems like this used to be
around 4 seconds in the event of Timeout but I assume it may be longer
now.
In case anyone is curious, I have logged a .get() that blocked for 21
seconds and a .put()
entity?
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though I am curious if we can predict how long .get()
and .fetch() will potentially block for? Seems like this used to be
around 4 seconds in the event of Timeout but I assume it may be longer
now
Thank you for posting the charts; very interesting to compare the
results between the two apps.
A few months ago I had similar slow instance startup problems whereby
the request timer was often already between 5s and 30s before the
first logging statement at the very top of my app's main py file
No, it is 1GB total.
On Nov 22, 6:55 am, yccheok yancheng.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a question on the Stored Data Quota.
Google is offering us free 1GB quota for stored data. Currently, my
total data base size is 0.9 GB. (0.1 GB) left.
So, during next month, will my quota limit be
Was fixed earlier this week for me, thank you
On Nov 17, 8:53 pm, Ikai L (Google) ika...@google.com wrote:
This issue has been resolved. Can those of you that have been affected
please check your dashboards?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Prashant antsh...@gmail.com wrote:
check my app
If you don't need the data indexed and your access patterns are
suitable like you say, there is no harm in storing data in JSON format
in a blob, i have done similar things in many places. But remember
there is no cjson on app engine so make sure to benchmark if you are
doing a lot of parsing.
Yes, same here.
On Nov 8, 7:59 am, Uwe Maurer uwe.mau...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
since a couple of days I can only see the last 18 hours in the
dashboard chart instead of the last 24 hours. ( even when I select the
24 hours chart)
This is on all our apps. Anybody else have this problem too?
You cannot use sockets on app engine.
On Nov 5, 2:26 am, Felix felix1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This is my first question in the forum :)
I am trying to insert a data but it is not working. I verified the
code locally and it works in the localhost but it does not actually
works in the
.
j
On Nov 2, 2:17 pm, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote:
For a simple webapp app, even cold start should be not more than
50-100ms extra. One thing you might be affected by is slow import bug;
you may want to add more logging statements to see if that is the
cause. Either way
looks like it might be fixed now
On Nov 2, 9:59 am, bFlood bflood...@gmail.com wrote:
anyone else seeing this (11/02 - 10am EST)
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For a simple webapp app, even cold start should be not more than
50-100ms extra. One thing you might be affected by is slow import bug;
you may want to add more logging statements to see if that is the
cause. Either way try to bring it to the attention of googlers so they
can look into it as
Yes, use the task queue.
On Nov 1, 2:33 am, Nikki Erwin Ramirez necrami...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to defer execution until a specific date and time based on
something done with the application. A very simple example would be
to schedule the sending of an email notification.
Is this
To actually remove the properties you need to create new entities to
replace the old ones, or use the low-level ext.db interface to alter
the existing entities.
(usually this is not necessary)
On Oct 27, 9:47 pm, Tom Wu service.g2...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Adam,
I do remove the column from my
Hmm, I see the same thing...
On Oct 7, 9:43 pm, Sargis Dallakyan food@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings,
I just checked my app and noticed a new entry called High Cpu Http
Requests in the Dashboard. When I click on Quota Details, it's listed
under Other Quotas With Warnings: These quotas are
Not sure if anyone has produced exact numbers but my experience is
that number of rpc calls (get, put, etc) and number of distinct
entities involved in each has generally more effect on CPU hours
cost than the amount of data in any given entity being acted upon. So
if you can reduce your # of
There was a message in the downtime notify group. The datastore wasn't
accepting any writes for a while.
On Sep 21, 7:28 pm, Rob Osborne robert.osbo...@gmail.com wrote:
One of my apps stopped responding today at around 3pm EST or 12pm PST
for about 5 minutes. Dynamic pages errored on a db
Since this seemed to start with the last maintenance cycle maybe we
will get lucky and it will go away after the maint tomorrow.
On Sep 21, 6:15 pm, Jason C jason.a.coll...@gmail.com wrote:
There hasn't been an official response (or answer) yet. It continues
to happen often for us, and it
Was seeing the same behavior here but now cron appears to be working
again.
Regards,
Brandon
On Sep 19, 5:14 pm, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I also actually think cron isn't running either. I recently uploaded a new
version of my app and none of the tasks have run yet.
I get bursty periods of very high request latency, with increasing
frequency over the last few weeks, which last from seconds to hours.
Usually the elevated latencies are in the 3-6s range but sometimes it
goes up into the 20-30s range. For example, here are some logs from a
few minutes ago:
Here is an example. This request took 9s to complete but it appears
that only 200ms was spent inside my python file:
09-18 01:17AM 00.930 /admin/tick 200 9379ms 113cpu_ms
16api_cpu_ms 0kb Python-urllib/2.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
D 09-18 01:17AM 10.064 App loading...
W 09-18
maybe it is a problem inside my app? I will continue to research...
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Here is an example. This request took 9s to complete but it appears
that only 200ms was spent inside my python file:
09-18 01:17AM 00.930 /admin/tick 200 9379ms
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